I'm tempted to vote for this party ....

[Platypus]

I got as far as..

Gary Bushell

.. and stopped.

Thanks for posting that - saves me the bother of looking into them myself

[snaw]

Indeed.

I wonder why the SNP & PC are not referred to as "Little Scotlanders" or "Little Walesers" by parties seeking to disparage them.

There needs to be some unity in our put-downs of nationalists...

Wellllll.

A "Little Englander" is usually applied by the centre and centre-left to those who are regarded as xenophobic and/or overly patriotic and are often accused of being ignorant and boorish. It is also sometimes applied to those who are against membership of the European Union. English people who mistakenly refer to the whole of the UK or Britain as "England" may also be called "Little Englanders".

I dunno if you can apply SNP supporters to that description. Overly patriotic perhaps is about it - but supporting SNP doesn't mean automatically you hate the English, just that you think Scotland's interests would be best served by an independent Scottish government.

[Moscow Mule]

I dunno if you can apply SNP supporters to that description. Overly patriotic perhaps is about it - but supporting SNP doesn't mean automatically you hate the English, just that you think Scotland's interests would be best served by an independent Scottish government.

Is there a "more bolshy" version of the SNP to which it could be applied?

To extend your point, most people who get called "Little Englanders" probably don't hate the Scots (or any other particular group), they just feel their interests are better served outside of the various unions they are in (UK or Europe depending on their views).

Edit: And I've seen a couple of SNP MPs on Question time - you could definitely apply ignorant & boorish to a couple of them.

[snaw]

Is there a "more bolshy" version of the SNP to which it could be applied?

To extend your point, most people who get called "Little Englanders" probably don't hate the Scots (or any other particular group), they just feel their interests are better served outside of the various unions they are in (UK or Europe depending on their views).

I'm sure there are SNP supporters to whom it could be applied. But at it's core the SNP is about Scotland running itself. No handouts from SE England (Note the SE bit ..), not xenophobic, actively part of Europe etc. In that sense they're quite different.

But little Englander to me is a type of person that exists in every country, to some degree, just the name for them that changes.

[snaw]

Edit: And I've seen a couple of SNP MPs on Question time - you could definitely apply ignorant & boorish to a couple of them.

I've seen many MP's to whom that description applies, right across the political spectrum. Hardly conclusive of anything ...

[Moscow Mule]

They have a forum you know.

Jesus Holy Christ on a bike.

http://crossofstgeorge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24399

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 09:55 am Post subject: Andrew Marr
I don't watch this J ock because he's turned what was a good Sunday morning show (Breakfast with Frost) into a J ock fest of opinion.

However, I thought I would watch it just to see which J ocks he would have on the show to opine about MPs' expenses.

Answer, Charles Falconer and Richard Shepherd. He also had Alistait Graham, from Northumberland - no doubt for balance.

I'll go back to avoiding this J ock fest now. Sunday morning BBC TV is just a J ock promotion nowadays.

[snaw]

Jesus Holy Christ on a bike.

http://crossofstgeorge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24399

Sounds like he got his c and j's mixed up and accidentally tuned into a gay porn channel ...

[Mich the Tester]

Jesus Holy Christ on a bike.

http://crossofstgeorge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24399

How sad.

[Cyberman]

So are the SNP 'little Scotlanders' ? The fact is that the English are treated as second class with regard to Parliament where Scots can vote on English issues but we can not vote on Scottish issues, and the Barnett formula which provides an extra 1,000 pounds per head to Scots over the English.

Scots and Welsh are both to get free 'NHS' prescriptions and get better access to drugs. This is clearly unfair and it is wrong that we have to accept this inferior treatment when we pay more taxes on average.

It's about time we had a party that can at least fight for equal rights for England. I am not asking for better, just EQUAL !!!

[Mich the Tester]

It's about time we had a party that can at least fight for equal rights for England. I am not asking for better, just EQUAL !!!

Do you also want the same standard of living, life expectancy and unemployment rate as Scotland too?