Energy Saver Light Bulbs

[tino]

Ladies and Gentlemen, deductive reasoning at its very best!

He's surely a BA

[BrowneIssue]

I want to know why you can't get bright energy saving bulbs.

Occasionally I would fit 150W bulbs in the kitchen or home office. There are no such equivalent energy saving bulbs

An 18W energy saver = a 100W proper bulb.

So where is the 25W energy saver?

Or even, the 100W energy saving bulb for that matter? One of those would illuminate my entire loft.

Everything about these energy saving bulbs is crap. Slow to warm up, they flicker they do not seem to last very long, they are fragile and I am sure they are dimmer than their equivalent.

It's all a ruddy great red herring.

[GardenGirl]

I want to know why you can't get bright energy saving bulbs.

Occasionally I would fit 150W bulbs in the kitchen or home office. There are no such equivalent energy saving bulbs

An 18W energy saver = a 100W proper bulb.

So where is the 25W energy saver?

Or even, the 100W energy saving bulb for that matter? One of those would illuminate my entire loft.

Everything about these energy saving bulbs is crap. Slow to warm up, they flicker they do not seem to last very long, they are fragile and I am sure they are dimmer than their equivalent.

It's all a ruddy great red herring.

Sounds to me like you need to get your eyes tested or electrics looked at. I use Energy savers and yes at first they are dim but they get better with more use and they don't flicker. I haven't changed a bulb in 3 years except in my lounge which is on a dimmer and the standard energy savers definitely don't work with Dimmers, so only bulb changed is the standard one (twice).

[Platypus]

I am sure they are dimmer than their equivalent.

I'm sure you're right. I now replace with a higher wattage energy saver, e.g. replace 60W bulb with 75W "equivalent" energy saver.

[EternalOptimist]

I've got 3 x 20W CFLs in my office & the place is still dim...

Though it is brighter than the original 3 x 40W candle bulbs left by the previous occupant.

Reading is much more comfortable with the 8W spirally one in the anglepoise switched on...

How do these new smart meters work then ?

[expat]

Everything about these energy saving bulbs is crap. Slow to warm up, they flicker they do not seem to last very long, they are fragile and I am sure they are dimmer than their equivalent.

They get significantly dimmer over their working life.

I don't think you should worry about their fragility, though: just handle them with normal toxic chemical precautions.

One of my big problems with them is not with the bulbs themselves but with their apologists, who try to tell you that they are suitable for all applications (hence it's OK to ban incandescent bulbs), but end up implying that your application is unimaginably exotic, or simply suggest that you change your lights and your life to fit their bulbs.

[EternalOptimist]

There's a little gnome inside who reads the numbers & phones the electrickery company to tell them how much you've used.

HTH.

P.S. The gas meter is similar, but it's an elf instead.

an elf in a gas meter ??

I hope they dont smoke in there

[Churchill]

an elf in a gas meter ??

I hope they dont smoke in there

Smoking is bad for your Elf.

[Troll]

Did you know the country could make a 8 % saving on generation if the current on pylons is switched from AC to DC

[Churchill]

Did you know the country could make a 8 % saving on generation if the current on pylons is switched from AC to DC

How much extra would it cost to replace/update all the transformer stations?