computer climate modelling like ancient astrology

[FSM with Cheddar]

You are all missing the point.

Science welcomes evidence of any kind. It is only personalities that get in the way.

The overwhelming evidence still points to man-made global warming, not just from climate models, but from a large range of disparate scientific fields.

If someone has discovered problems in the current climate models then great. Publish the results in a peer reviewed journal, and lets debate it based on its scientific merit.

The only agenda of science is the pursuit of the truth.

[Churchill]

I'm not sure what to make of the report.

After months, if not years, of being told that I am responsible for climate change, and starting to make a change in some of my lifestyle choices, I am now confronted with the notion that it's all bunkum ?

Help Help I'm Being Repressed !

(by Social Engineering masquerading as Climate Change Guilt)

Taxation
Shirley?

[sasguru]

You are all missing the point.

Science welcomes evidence of any kind. It is only personalities that get in the way.

The overwhelming evidence still points to man-made global warming, not just from climate models, but from a large range of disparate scientific fields.
If someone has discovered problems in the current climate models then great. Publish the results in a peer reviewed journal, and lets debate it based on its scientific merit.

The only agenda of science is the pursuit of the truth.

WHS. HTH.

[Bagpuss]

Typical media reporting. They have gathered evidence for a theory. That's not the same as proof.

[Svalbaard]

I've been saying it for years - this whole global warming debate is a conspiracy designed by corporate shills to instill fear in the masses and to take money from their pockets. IF Co2 levels have been increasing over the last 10 years or so I pretty sure it's from all the vacuous tulip that comes from the mouths of the eco-mentallists et al.

I'm with the Japs on this. Show me hard categorical evidence and I'll ditch the 4x4 - till then, it's my planet.

Want to reduce CO2? Simple - stop chopping down forests.
Want to reduce CO2? Simple - stop polluting the oceans.
Want to reduce CO2? Ahem!!! Stop the Indians and Chinese from breeding.

But those aren't popular solutions are they.

[ace00]

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The overwhelming evidence still points to man-made global warming, not just from climate models, but from a large range of disparate scientific fields.

What evidence? If you actually read the report it demolishes each tenet of AGW 1 by 1, with evidence.

[Churchill]

I've been saying it for years - this whole global warming debate is a conspiracy designed by corporate shills to instill fear in the masses and to take money from their pockets. IF Co2 levels have been increasing over the last 10 years or so I pretty sure it's from all the vacuous tulip that comes from the mouths of the eco-mentallists et al.

I'm with the Japs on this. Show me hard categorical evidence and I'll ditch the 4x4 - till then, it's my planet.

Want to reduce CO2? Simple - stop chopping down forests.
Want to reduce CO2? Simple - stop polluting the oceans.
Want to reduce CO2? Ahem!!! Stop the Indians and Chinese from breeding.

But those aren't popular solutions are they.

What about...
Want to reduce CO2? Simple - stop fitting catalytic converters to cars!

[DimPrawn]

scientific merit.

The only agenda of science is the pursuit of the truth.

Massiv funding, a new facility with state of the art supercomputer paid for by Carbon credits, better pay for the scientists so they can buy a big house and pull an attractive bird.

[Mich the Tester]

How the hell can it be man-made?

If global warming is true then it's discrimination to call it man made. It's just as much, arguably even more woman-made, considering that women are 50% of the world's population and generally much more materially acquisitive than men. They also use more hairspray. Mens' barbecues and cars are nothing compared to the hairsprays, the carbon footprint of womens' shoes and the ridiculous desire of women to go off an lie on the beach in far away destinations when most men would be just as happy spending their holiday in the pub.

Global warming is woman-made.

[FSM with Cheddar]

Global warming is woman-made.

WHS