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[FSM with Cheddar]

Good one BI.

WHS

I got a creationist leaflet delivered by the local church the other day. It really annoyed me. I'm currently constructing a rant, not to dissimilar from yours for our local paper.

[cailin maith]

It's all make believe. There is no God. Get over it.

Yeah, there is!!

Anyway, get back over to TPD... and we can all live in harmony

[BrowneIssue]

Yeah, there is!!

Prove it.

[expat]

Well done, BI. But the wearing part is how you have to keep doing that, as the same old fallacies, lies, obscurantism, straw men, irrelevancies, and wilful ignorance keep popping up. The opposite of scientific progress, where you may re-examine the theory and the evidence at any time, but don't actually have to keep doing it from the start.

[cailin maith]

Prove it.

Can't... thats what faith is all about.

Anyway... you should be more careful with your blood pressure.

[FSM with Cheddar]

Last week I prayed to my invisible friend (Flying Spaghetti Monster) for an inch of snow.

I think he must have been drunk at the time, because we got about 12inches.

So that is definite proof that he exists. Also he talks to me in my head, and told me that I must keep my faith.

Faith and personal revelations: 1
Evidence based reasoning: 0

[techno]

Prove it.

History is littered with "Science proves this...". Once upon a time it was believed by scientists the Earth was flat, the Earth was the centre of the universe.

Other scientists then come along and prove that is not the case.

It is all about timelines. At this moment scientific evidence proves there is no God as the creationists want us to believe, but who is to say in 500 years time science proves that there is some aliens directing us etc.

BTW - I am not a believer in God, but just putting an argument back to yours.

[bogeyman]

Of course there's no God, FFS. There's no Tooth Fairy, no Jack Frost, no bogeyman-under-the-bed and there is no God / godhead / group of gods living on a mountain / aliens directing us / mystical powers in star constellations. Grow up.

Oh yeah? Have you checked under your bed lately?

Other than that, completely agree.

[FSM with Cheddar]

History is littered with "Science proves this...". Once upon a time it was believed by scientists the Earth was flat, the Earth was the centre of the universe.

Other scientists then come along and prove that is not the case.

No science NEVER told us that the earth was flat. That is what individual people believed, based on a lack of knowledge.

On the science of evolution by natural section. Over the last 100 years, ALL findings have supported and enhanced the theory.

Yes science does get things wrong, and theories change. However the underlying fact that species evolve is a fact, its just our understanding that may change.

[Drewster]

History is littered with "Science proves this...". Once upon a time it was believed by scientists the Earth was flat, the Earth was the centre of the universe.

Other scientists then come along and prove that is not the case.

It is all about timelines. At this moment scientific evidence proves there is no God as the creationists want us to believe, but who is to say in 500 years time science proves that there is some aliens directing us etc.

BTW - I am not a believer in God, but just putting an argument back to yours.

Please supply ANY evidence that Scientists (or indeed ANYONE) ever thought that the World was flat........ the center of the (known) Universe - Yep but Flat??

Sorry FSM beat me to it!