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Capital Punishment - Time to reconsider?

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    #21
    I dont vote unless there is an andyw option.....

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      #22
      It's a well-known fact that when we had the death penalty, murder was almost unheard of.

      Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
      I dont vote unless there is an andyw option.....
      Who killed AndyW?
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        #23
        Originally posted by BrowneIssue View Post
        It's a well-known fact that when we had the death penalty, murder was almost unheard of.
        And it's a well known fact that scum who murder or rape kids, where it can be irrefutably proved with DNA evidence, wouldn't cost the taxpayer thousands of pounds per year to keep alive if they were strung up.
        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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          #24
          The humble street light caused the biggest drop in murder rates.

          I think life should mean life, the sheer horror of just one innocent person being executed by the state is my reason. Can you imagine walking to the gallows knowing you are not guilty .................
          But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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            #25
            Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
            And it's a well known fact that scum who murder or rape kids, where it can be irrefutably proved with DNA evidence, wouldn't cost the taxpayer thousands of pounds per year to keep alive if they were strung up.
            That is going to come back and bite the justice system on the bum so hard...

            And it's the death penalty for a 16 year for shagging a 15 year old girl too is it? (Because it is illegal, therefore, rape, therefore death penalty...) Let's hope it's not your son.
            Last edited by BrowneIssue; 30 January 2009, 21:42. Reason: Added a link
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              #26
              Originally posted by Paddy View Post
              If capital punishment is brought back than it should not rely on “beyond reasonable doubt” but instead should be “beyond all doubt” . |Executing a few innocent people is fine until it’s your turn to be executed. Then there are differences between pre-meditated murder and murder in self defence. And then there is the matter of making martyrs.
              Sooner or later it *will* be your turn, whether it's being told you have incurable cancer, or accidently stepping in front of a bus, or being killed by an overdose delivered by some overworked nurse or knackered doctor, or shot by an overzealous copper, or killed by a falling roof tile, etc, etc, etc.

              We all die sometime, and many deaths are due one way or another to the risks of living with others (although that is generally smaller than the risks of trying to live alone in the wilderness).

              The point is that capital punishment for a crime one didn't commit is just one more such risk (and very much smaller than most others). Provided trials are conducted with all due diligence, and no evidence is withheld, nobody has any reason to reproach themselves if a victim was found to be innocent the very day after they were executed. It's just hard luck.

              Also, nearly all victims of miscarriage of justice are criminals anyway and, even if their crimes are not serious, the remote possibility of being topped for a crime they didn't commit is just another occupational hazard.

              And this idea that only child killers or cop killer should swing is a bunch of sentimental horsetulip. Everyone's life is worth the same, or should be considered as such, whether they are 9 or 90, and any deliberate killing except in legitimate self defence should be a capital offence. (That includes these so-called "mercy killings" and assisted suicides BTW.)
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                #27
                I dont believe hanging is right. I would make murderers pogo stick over the m25 at rush hour......

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                  I dont believe hanging is right. I would make murderers pogo stick over the m25 at rush hour......
                  Huh? Apart from the inconvenience of having to go around the parked cars, how is this a punishment?
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BrowneIssue View Post
                    That is going to come back and bite the justice system on the bum so hard...

                    And it's the death penalty for a 16 year for shagging a 15 year old girl too is it? (Because it is illegal, therefore, rape, therefore death penalty...) Let's hope it's not your son.
                    And when it's your daughter who has been raped and murdered by a sicko (and you know EXACTLY what I am talking about, and it's not kids shagging kids)....come back and tell us all how your opinion has changed.
                    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BrowneIssue View Post
                      It's a well-known fact that when we had the death penalty, murder was almost unheard of.

                      Who killed AndyW?

                      It's also a fact that those that were strung up did not come out to murder a second time. Almost 100 people have been murdered by released murderers !!

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