Ungrateful bastards

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David Cameron
Not worth listening to

[HeliCraig]

Can anyone remember the poll lead that Kinnock had over Major in the run-up to the 1992 election?

Polls are meaningless - I still reckon that Labour can pull it out of the bag at the next election.

Bush won two elections - so anything can happen! (Note I did not say that the American's voted him in - there is probably a disconnect there!).

The problem with the UK is that both (if not all three) major parties are by and large very similar in both the proposition they pose to the electorate; and they certainly all revert to type over time.

Mind you, this may be as a result of the civil service; which I feel is largely to blame for governments becoming ineffectual. See Digby Jones' comments earlier this week! At the beginning of a government the new party in power don't mind upsetting the mandarins - by the end they are as institutionalised as the mandarins themselves!

Time for a good shake up.

[Cyberman]

Can anyone remember the poll lead that Kinnock had over Major in the run-up to the 1992 election?

Polls are meaningless - I still reckon that Labour can pull it out of the bag at the next election.

What planet are you on ? If you think that holding off until 2010 when we have almost four million unemployed, almost a million having lost their homes, and megabillions being added to National Debt every week means that people will still vote for Labour there really is no hope for UK PLC.

[PM-Junkie]

Bush won two elections - so anything can happen! (Note I did not say that the American's voted him in - there is probably a disconnect there!).

....that has more to do with the fact that the US voting system is one of the most corrupt on the planet than who people think they voted for.

At least here, regardless of who wins we can be safe in the knowledge that they did actually win (according to our system, which I don't actually agree with).

[BrowneIssue]

Excellent, finally the mindless masses are recognising my genius.

Sorry, who are you again?

[tonyblair]

Ha ! Looking forward to the next election when Gordon and his incompetent numpties get kicked out.

Now perhaps you realise why I hung on as long as I did.

[TheFaQQer]

....that has more to do with the fact that the US voting system is one of the most corrupt on the planet than who people think they voted for.

At least here, regardless of who wins we can be safe in the knowledge that they did actually win (according to our system, which I don't actually agree with).

You can't really argue with the second election. The first was stolen, but the second was won as fairly as any other election in the US has been. Bush won the popular vote and the electoral college vote in the second election.

[Doggy Styles]

You can't really argue with the second election. The first was stolen, but the second was won as fairly as any other election in the US has been. Bush won the popular vote and the electoral college vote in the second election.

But imagine Al Gore as president...

[TheFaQQer]

But imagine Al Gore as president...

The US wouldn't have wasted $800+ bn on an illegal war? We wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq? US might have funded the FBI in their search for Al-Quaeda before 9/11? The president might have actually read the PDB entitled "Bin Laden determined to strike in US"? Greenspan would not have backed the tax cuts for the rich, or cut interest rates to 1%, encouraging banks to borrow more, magnifying the credit crunch?

[Doggy Styles]

The US wouldn't have wasted $800+ bn on an illegal war? We wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq? US might have funded the FBI in their search for Al-Quaeda before 9/11? The president might have actually read the PDB entitled "Bin Laden determined to strike in US"? Greenspan would not have backed the tax cuts for the rich, or cut interest rates to 1%, encouraging banks to borrow more, magnifying the credit crunch?

Some would have been done differently, for better or for worse.

But about al-quaeda and the taliban, the democrats had ignored the problem during the previous eight years and just let it develop. Furthermore, much of his Inconvenient Truth video seems to have been inconveniently untrue.