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    #21
    From an article here in today's Observer:

    Barclays, for example, is in a position analogous to Citigroup and Bank of America. In 2007 close to half its profits came from "investment banking", now so perilous for its American counterparts. Barclays is the leader in so-called corporate "synthetic" structured investment vehicles - complex and even more dodgy than the securities that have brought low Citigroup and Bank of America. On Friday credit-rating agency Moodys announced new and more demanding criteria for how "synthetics" will be valued in future - implying that bank guarantors will need to find billions extra in capital to support them. Barclays could have to raise up to another £10bn capital to support its investment bank operation; impossible, except from the taxpayer. With the ban on short selling lifted on Friday - an asinine genuflection to the interests of hedge funds - it was an obvious target. The bank rushed out a statement late in the evening declaring good 2008 profits and solid capital ratios. But the issue is 2009, given the new rules. A taxpayer bail-out for Barclays - a view shared by a growing number of officials, if not all - is close to inevitable.

    The prime minister is incandescent; the bank has not been straight with either the government or its shareholders about its balance-sheet risks. It did not share in the first round of bank recapitalisation, instead raising cripplingly expensive funds from Arab sovereign wealth funds. When Britain needs all its big banks to act together to stop a credit crunch-induced slump, Barclays, putting its own interests - and bonuses - first instead triggers a second phase of the crisis. ..
    The author of the piece, Will Hutton, is a socialist. So his conclusions and spin should be viewed in that light. But as a statement of fact, if such it is, the above may help explain the drop in Barclay's share price.
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      #22
      What hasn't been noted is that Barclays is quite big in Africa so they do have another revenue stream to raise finds from that doesn't require government intervention.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Ardesco View Post
        What hasn't been noted is that Barclays is quite big in Africa so they do have another revenue stream to raise finds from that doesn't require government intervention.
        One can only assume they raised the cheapest capital possible with the exception of HMG's offerings in the last round (Sov Wealth Funds) and therefore its safe to assume there will not be any mroe capital on even comparable terms.

        HMG have a chance to really **** Barclays up the arse. If I was GB I would tel Barclays they can have a bailout at 20% preference shares!

        They would have no other choice! Available credit is even more scarce than it was when they took out the 14% rates with the Arabs.

        Barclays are borderline satanic in their dealings, so I hope they get royally shafted!

        Come to think of it, I have no need for loans and no real cash savings so I am quite happy for the banks to ALL get ****ed up the arse by this crisis, I m just angry and want revenge.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Solidec View Post
          Barclays are borderline satanic in their dealings, so I hope they get royally shafted!
          WHS

          ...actually, I'd say they crossed the line some years ago.
          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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            #25
            Originally posted by Solidec View Post
            One can only assume they raised the cheapest capital possible with the exception of HMG's offerings in the last round (Sov Wealth Funds) and therefore its safe to assume there will not be any mroe capital on even comparable terms.

            HMG have a chance to really **** Barclays up the arse. If I was GB I would tel Barclays they can have a bailout at 20% preference shares!

            They would have no other choice! Available credit is even more scarce than it was when they took out the 14% rates with the Arabs.

            Barclays are borderline satanic in their dealings, so I hope they get royally shafted!

            Come to think of it, I have no need for loans and no real cash savings so I am quite happy for the banks to ALL get ****ed up the arse by this crisis, I m just angry and want revenge.


            Well, HMG were truly nasty to Northern Rock for much lesser 'crimes', so perhaps HMG should nationalise them without compensation...moral hazard and all that !!! Let's bugger up a few more pension funds.

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              #26
              If HMG takes a stake in BARC Monday then isn't it good that their price was down 25% late on Friday.
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                #27
                isnt life wonderful when you buy at the bottom and sell at the top -

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