Britain's highly educated, motivated workforce

[Mich the Tester]

So what do you do with the lumpen proletariat then?
Contrary to popular opinion we don't have more of them than other countries, you know.
It's just that ours are particularly poorly educated and feral so they get noticed more.

You educate the ones that can be educated and you give state benefits to the ones who can't. Just spread them around geographically and don't put them all on unemployment benefit; put some on disability, others on social work projects (mowing lawns on roundabouts and so on) and others on income support, so they don't show up in the unemployment figures.

It's harsh, but if we only have 'knowledge industries' then we're going to have to accept that a number of people can't keep up. Cheaper to pay them to stay out of meaningful work where they can damage things than to clear up the bloody mess they make at work or out rioting, thieving and taking drugs.

[DimPrawn]

You educate the ones that can be educated and you give state benefits to the ones who can't. Just spread them around geographically and don't put them all on unemployment benefit; put some on disability, others on social work projects (mowing lawns on roundabouts and so on) and others on income support, so they don't show up in the unemployment figures.

It's harsh, but if we only have 'knowledge industries' then we're going to have to accept that a number of people can't keep up. Cheaper to pay them to stay out of meaningful work where they can damage things than to clear up the bloody mess they make at work or out rioting, thieving and taking drugs.

Or encourage them to join-up and fight in sasguru's Jihadi honeypot war against them "immigrants". Two birds and all that.

[sasguru]

You educate the ones that can be educated and you give state benefits to the ones who can't. Just spread them around geographically and don't put them all on unemployment benefit; put some on disability, others on social work projects (mowing lawns on roundabouts and so on) and others on income support, so they don't show up in the unemployment figures.

It's harsh, but if we only have 'knowledge industries' then we're going to have to accept that a number of people can't keep up. Cheaper to pay them to stay out of meaningful work where they can damage things than to clear up the bloody mess they make at work or out rioting, thieving and taking drugs.

But that was exactly my point. Isn't that whats happening?

[Mich the Tester]

But that was exactly my point. Isn't that whats happening?

Yes, but Labour aren't doing a very good job of it.

[ratewhore]

The 'lumpen proletariat' can't see beyond next weeks x-factor, getting their weekly supply of fags and lager. They don't see working in a shop or picking vegetables as 'proper work' as it's too hard and doesn't give them enough cash for their Sky subscription. Unfortunately for them we have immigrants who are prepared to do those jobs.

Only be changing the benefit system will we get people off their arses and into work.

[DimPrawn]

The 'lumpen proletariat' can't see beyond next weeks x-factor, getting their weekly supply of fags and lager. They don't see working in a shop or picking vegetables as 'proper work' as it's too hard and doesn't give them enough cash for their Sky subscription. Unfortunately for them we have immigrants who are prepared to do those jobs.

Only be changing the benefit system will we get people off their arses and into work.

You sound like a Tory. That's not "fair".

[ratewhore]

You sound like a Tory. That's not "fair".

You're quite right, it's not 'fair'. NL, on the other hand, by being 'fair', have pretty much ruined this country.

Incidentally, I'm happy to nail my colours to the mast and say I will be voting Tory at the next general election. Sorry Brillo...

[Mich the Tester]

Only be changing the benefit system will we get people off their arses and into work.

Is that really a good idea? I'd rather the real jobs were done by immigrants who were at least literate enough to read a bus timetable and get themselves here than some halfwitted inbred village idiot who can't spell his own name.

[TheBigD]

"Both left school at 16 without any qualifications"

That was pretty much the position I was in, but after spending a couple of weeks trying to get a job, I signed up for a college course which led to Uni and then employment...

It's not difficult...young people have a shed load of opportunities available to them for education/training...they just need to get off their backsides and take them!

[DimPrawn]

"Both left school at 16 without any qualifications"

That was pretty much the position I was in, but after spending a couple of weeks trying to get a job, I signed up for a college course which led to Uni and then employment...

It's not difficult...young people have a shed load of opportunities available to them for education/training...they just need to get off their backsides and take them!

Why bother? Just sign-on. Free housing, free money, free everything.