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5 grand a year better off by separating !!

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    #11
    Originally posted by MrMark View Post
    One reason not to be taken in by the Tory claim they would have avoided the credit crunch, is because if anything they would have de regulated even more. In fact Dave Cameron says exactly this in his 2007 speech to the Tory faithful:


    Daves Speech

    However it is also true that the Conservatives have been banging on for some time now that it's better to help married couples (presumably at the expense of single people). So at least we have some real idea of how differently the Tories will run things.
    There's also mention in the speech of putting private companies in charge of the benefit payment system. Which could well be good news for the contractor market!!! Boomed!



    The Tories are referring to deregulation businesses by reducing red tape, which is absolutely necessary to give a boost to free enterprise after all of the additional burdens applied in the past 11 years. They are not referring to deregulating banks in the disastrous way that Brown did by splitting the FSA and the BofE.

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      #12
      You really shouldn't knock it until you've tried it.

      Working in the black economy has many advantages. One thing that is good is that wife can get a place in the country with the kids, which is good for them, better schools, lots of fresh air, plenty to see and do, and father gets a flat in town, so he doesn't need to commute too far. If they go out on the tiles and have a little too much then they don't need to get a taxi, and he gets a place in the country to relax at the weekends.

      There are also groups who live a lifestyle called 'polyamory'. Wives live of the various rail lines, dads live in different parts of town. They go round each others gaff for a party each weekend.

      Tell you, you lot miss out on such a lot working for the tax man.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
        What's wrong with it is that it encourages people to break up perfectly good families for financial reasons, and also not to marry, when commonsense tells us that a more stable society depends on stable families.
        submit to an archaic religious tradition and legal contract which removes individual freedom and often causes years of misery and emotional suffering

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          #14
          Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
          What's wrong with it is that it encourages people to break up perfectly good families for financial reasons, and also not to marry, when commonsense tells us that a more stable society depends on stable families. Five grand is hardly a small annual sum that people will ignore !! Unfortunately, this is just one example of the consequences of the perverse policies of Gordon Brown.
          So not paying any benefits to single-parent families will fix that? No, it will just crush the least fortunate, for a vague possibility of a tiny tax cut for you.

          You disgusting piece of trash (tm)

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            #15
            Originally posted by expat View Post
            So not paying any benefits to single-parent families will fix that? No, it will just crush the least fortunate, for a vague possibility of a tiny tax cut for you.

            You disgusting piece of trash (tm)

            Poor logic Expat. Did I say stop paying benefits to single parent families ? Ummmm.....

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              #16
              Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
              Poor logic Expat. Did I say stop paying benefits to single parent families ? Ummmm.....
              Well, any other fiddling with the system will always eventually lead to similar disparities.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Purple Dalek View Post
                Well, any other fiddling with the system will always eventually lead to similar disparities.

                Any fiddling that discourages single parent families might actually be good for the country in the long-term.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MrMark View Post
                  One reason not to be taken in by the Tory claim they would have avoided the credit crunch, is because if anything they would have de regulated even more. In fact Dave Cameron says exactly this in his 2007 speech to the Tory faithful:


                  Daves Speech

                  !
                  There's no connection here at all.

                  The Credit Crunch was caused entirely by Banks lending more money than the economy could manage.

                  Changing a few business rules about filling in forms would have had no effect on this

                  tim

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
                    What's wrong with it is that it encourages people to break up perfectly good families for financial reasons, and also not to marry, when commonsense tells us that a more stable society depends on stable families. Five grand is hardly a small annual sum that people will ignore !! Unfortunately, this is just one example of the consequences of the perverse policies of Gordon Brown.
                    I used to know someone who did this when the Tories were last in power, the guy that did it was a tight arse staunch right wing tulipbag who put personal gain before his own family.

                    Nothing new and certainly not one of Gordon’s ideas.
                    Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
                      I would stop reading the Daily Mail if I were you.

                      You run the risk that that paper will turn you into a one-dimensional little-Englander obsessed with only how the Labour party have ruined the country and only the Conservatives can save it, the importance of keeping an independent currency out of the hands of the Europeans, and the value of your house.
                      I see we have a Guardian/Observer pseudo intellectual.

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