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Why the Euro is ultimately doomed

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    #41
    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Indeed. And yet you're the one typing essays.
    I always type using both hands because it is faster - I do touchtyping which works very nicely, the only requirement here is a decent keyboard. This skill is something one learns after spending around 20 years with computers - I am not even sure you actually do more than point and click on yours and the only typing you have is on this forum or maybe a few emails.

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      #42
      Originally posted by AtW View Post
      Majorities change - you may well retain your opinion forever but other people will change it at some point, the more the pound devalued the most attractive it will become to join euro to reduce currency risks.

      You are entitled to your views. What I think you are not entitled is to tell people to leave this country only because they don't share your view or even if majority does not share yours - this is totally out of order and you should stop it.
      Perhaps he's frustrated because you didn't address his points from the previous thread (on the Euro) and carried on spouting garbage.
      Hard Brexit now!
      #prayfornodeal

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        #43
        Originally posted by AtW View Post
        I am not even sure you actually do more than point and click on yours and the only typing you have is on this forum or maybe a few emails.
        I have minions who do the typing. I just strategise.
        HTH
        Hard Brexit now!
        #prayfornodeal

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          #44
          Originally posted by sasguru View Post
          Perhaps he's frustrated because you didn't address his points from the previous thread (on the Euro) and carried on spouting garbage.
          It is out of order to tell someone to get out of country because their views do not fit in with (alleged) majority - the only people in my memory who did that were Soviets.

          I may well be wrong or spouting garbage - I am entitled to it just like you are entitled not to agree with it or whatever, but I am not telling you or that PM idiot to get out of this country simply because your views are not the same as mine - majority view here is totally irrelevant.

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            #45
            Actually true to form you have not addressed any of the fundamental points in this thread, namely that Europe is not the most dynamic sector of the global economy in the long run because of :

            1. Ageing population
            2. Too high wage and social costs, it can't afford
            3. Different policies required for different regions.
            Hard Brexit now!
            #prayfornodeal

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              #46
              Originally posted by sasguru View Post
              Actually true to form you have not addressed any of the fundamental points in this thread
              You miss the point - it is totally out of order to tell someone to leave the country on the grounds of alleged different views held by majority (which may change in 5 years) - issue of euro is nowhere near anything that would require to hold such view (and not be a scum nazi type), so I strongly object to such approach (not first time used by PM junk) and ask for him to stop it as it is out of order.

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                #47
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                Majorities change - you may well retain your opinion forever but other people will change it at some point, the more the pound devalued the most attractive it will become to join euro to reduce currency risks.

                You are entitled to your views. What I think you are not entitled is to tell people to leave this country only because they don't share your view or even if majority does not share yours - this is totally out of order and you should stop it.
                You really should try learning to read. I am not telling you - just pointing out that since you clearly dislike the economic policies this country follows, you would probably be happier somewhere else.

                And if I were to move to another country, I certainly wouldn't be so rude as to continually tell them to follow a course of action that repeated polls indicate is diagramatically opposite to what they want to do.

                ....and come to think of it, even if I were telling you to leave - I would merely be expressing my opinion. Which you keep saying we are all free to do. Hypocracy again?
                Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  You miss the point - it is totally out of order to tell someone to leave the country on the grounds of alleged different views held by majority (which may change in 5 years) - issue of euro is nowhere near anything that would require to hold such view (and not be a scum nazi type), so I strongly object to such approach (not first time used by PM junk) and ask for him to stop it as it is out of order.
                  Here, allow me to help. This is what I wrote...

                  "As has been said before, if you don't like like this country and the currency we CHOOSE to use, you know where the door is. All you do is moan about it so why are you still here?"

                  Now, you'll notice that at the end of my final sentence is a question mark (it looks like this "?"). That indicates a question, as opposed to an instruction - and example of which would be "make me a cup of tea"

                  Notice the difference?

                  And feel free to carry on calling me a "scum nazi" just for asking a question. It says far more about you than it does about me.
                  Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
                    And if I were to move to another country, I certainly wouldn't be so rude as to continually tell them to follow a course of action that repeated polls indicate is diagramatically opposite to what they want to do.
                    There is freedom of speech in this country, one of the reasons I like it. If you don't like what I say then don't listen to me - you are entitled to it. What you are not entitled is to tell people to get out of this country on the basis of alleged majority holding opposite views, this is totally out of order to even go this route - nobody appointed you to position to decide who gets in or out, there is no such position at all in this country, so if you don't like my views it's your problem but you should not cross the line of saying (which you did the other day very explicitly and not once) to get out of this country.

                    The reason I got out of Russia is because too many people are like you (and I despise this sort) - I am certainly not getting out of this country since you are in minority but you need to know that you are being out of order here.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
                      And feel free to carry on calling me a "scum nazi" just for asking a question. It says far more about you than it does about me.
                      Unlike you I lived among Soviets for far too long, I studied nazism and can say that it is not that far off Soviet ideology - that's why Hitler and Stalin actually had very productive relationship.

                      I state categorically that your type people who claim right on behalf of majority to tell others to leave the country is exactly the kind of Soviet/Nazi scum that is typical for Soviet/Nazi regimes - you need to think of it because while I might be wrong about euro and other things, I sure as heck not wrong about this thing since I have seen people like you in person way too many times in Russia.

                      So fooking what if majority of people don't want euro? Majority of people can elect one Govt one year and completely another in 10 years - views change. Current pound predicament will only help shift views towards supporting joining euro - whether this will be enough to win the referendum I don't know, but I think the chances are going to be realistic.

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