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    #21
    I never really understood the link with hardship or financial ruin and suicide. Do people really top themselves just because of money troubles? I thought it was more to do with there being something wrong with them.

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      #22
      Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
      I never really understood the link with hardship or financial ruin and suicide. Do people really top themselves just because of money troubles?
      I do, and yes, people top themselves because of financial ruin. They lose their pride, their home, sometimes their children and partners and can't see a way out. It's easy to sit back and say that it only happens to people who are already a bit screwed up, but people can end up depressed very very quickly. You don't necessarily know if you have a predisposition for depression but you'll find out very quickly if you go bust.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #23
        Have to admit I think its a bit stupid to kill yourself over money. If you lose everything all it is is a challenge to make some more.
        Hard Brexit now!
        #prayfornodeal

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          #24
          Originally posted by sasguru View Post
          Have to admit I think its a bit stupid to kill yourself over money. If you lose everything all it is is a challenge to make some more.
          So you have never thought to yourself "I don't want to kill myself, but I wouldn't mind being dead".

          Lucky you. That's where it starts.
          When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns--or dollars. Take your choice - Ayn Rand, Atlas.

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            #25
            Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
            I never really understood the link with hardship or financial ruin and suicide. Do people really top themselves just because of money troubles? I thought it was more to do with there being something wrong with them.
            The thing wrong with them being that money and social status are everything to them. Its a great pity really.

            Money is important : but not as important as life.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
              And how about the millions of families whose christmas will be bloody awful thanks to the complete breakdown of professional standards and competence in the banking industry? Perhaps while HSBC's directors and the banking profession in general do the right thing and look to help this guy's family, they could also put some serious thought into how they're going to help the millions of people who were sold mortgages they didn't understand, whose pensions and savings have been lost and those whose small businesses are dying for lack of normal, responsible credit.

              The entire banking profession must face up to it's responsibility; this guy's suicide looks like a microcosm of the bloody misery that banks have created, and for which their 'profession' should be held responsible.


              Many people working for banks are mere cashiers, foreign clerks, and IT personnel. They have nothing at all to do with this crisis, but are feeling the ramifications. Our government are just as guilty as the banks for allowing the debt boom to occur, so perhaps more of your vitriol should be aimed at the people 'in charge' of the country who sat by and watched while 'Rome burned'.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                The thing wrong with them being that money and social status are everything to them. Its a great pity really.

                Money is important : but not as important as life.
                Money seems to be the most important thing in life to two kinds of people; those who have enormous amounts of it, and those who haven't got any.
                And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by deano View Post
                  So you have never thought to yourself "I don't want to kill myself, but I wouldn't mind being dead".

                  Lucky you. That's where it starts.
                  Ouch! that really hit home.

                  I am out of this thread

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
                    Many people working for banks are mere cashiers, foreign clerks, and IT personnel. They have nothing at all to do with this crisis, but are feeling the ramifications. Our government are just as guilty as the banks for allowing the debt boom to occur, so perhaps more of your vitriol should be aimed at the people 'in charge' of the country who sat by and watched while 'Rome burned'.
                    My anger isn't at cashiers and supporting personel; of course it's at the senior management, and the politicians. The thing is, the politicians let it happen and so Gordon Snot goblin gets the blame (rightly), but that shouldn't distract from the senior people in the banks who didn't take their responsibility seriously and still aren't doing so.
                    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                      I never really understood the link with hardship or financial ruin and suicide. Do people really top themselves just because of money troubles? I thought it was more to do with there being something wrong with them.

                      Failure brings on a feeling of hopelessness and often leads to depression. Not all people have a 'could not care less', positive attitude, and many with families to support feel totally responsible for their failure to put food on the table etc.
                      On top of that, it is a fact that many wives desert their husbands in this scenario, so losing your job and your wife is a double whammy that can drive many over the edge. There will be many suicides next year, thanks to New Lie's economic incompetence over the past 11 years.

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