Sounds like you should retrain as a councellor.
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Programmer burnout?
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I can sympathize as I've been feeling the same way. I'm not sure it's necessarily IT though; it could just be the corporate world. I still enjoy a challenging testing job; I’m just sick to the back teeth of all the bureaucratic tulipe, management BS and general turgidness of large corporations. I feel prevented from doing my work well. Perhaps time to set up shop with a group of developers and testers who do rapid application development and consciously choose not to grow beyond a certain number.Originally posted by xchaotic View PostI don't know where to post as it's certainly not Light Relief...
Basically I'm tired with the whole IT and corporate world.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Be careful.
I’m quite an isolating person. I like to be left alone. I decided a few years ago that I wanted to be a Systems Analyst because it seemed somehow better. However as a Systems Analyst I have to force myself to deal with people. I don’t like that – it’s my psychological makeup I suppose – but I it has to be done. It was, in hindsight, one of the worse things I have done. I am good at it. Very good. But it has nearly killed me.
My guess is that a lot of technical people are similar to me, to a greater or lesser degree, which is probably why we have a reputation as "geeky nerds". We gravitate early on in life to dealing with things rather than people, because they are more reliable and predictable, and therefore secure a reputation as not being good with people.
So moving from programming to a role more involved with people can bring its own stresses if you are not suited to dealing with them. If you try to bring your own preferences for rationality, logic and predictability into an area where – for want of a better word – "normal" people are in the majority, you may find it hard to cope.
You will have to deal with all sorts of situations, not the least of which will be you will have to keep asking questions of your business colleagues, when they have been over it once. You will think that you are appearing thick, and you must learn to swallow your own pride in order to get all the information you need. Which is not easy if you are missing that extra layer of skin that separates "people" people from people like me.
Be realistic with yourself. Ask yourself if you have a wide circle of friends and can think of nothing worse than not being surrounded by people for most of the day, or are you the kind of person who may look longingly at that, but then returns to the technology-based series you have been watching on your own. It is a generalisation - perhaps even a parody - but you get my point.
I have generalised a lot, of course and most people can deal with other people quite easily. But the downside to getting it wrong for me was one of the things that led me down the hard road of alcohol abuse and it is only now that I am beginning to be able to deal with people – life on life’s terms – with the help of the Twelve-Step program. Remember the following…
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns--or dollars. Take your choice - Ayn Rand, Atlas.Comment
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Francko, that is a question for society: why are some jobs paid less well than others that are easier to do?Originally posted by Francko View PostI only want to point out one thing. Many people keep saying that becoming a BA or a PM is an evolution. Yet can somebody explain why there are many people who can switch from a programmer role to a BA/PM but no one can do the opposite?
Guys, let's face it, to be a programmer you need specific skills which you can't build up with experience. Not to say that other roles are less difficult but to me programmers are the most difficult roles and should be rewarded well, as you do find very few of them around ....
I would note that I have seen programmers paid more than their bosses, indeed it has happened to me. That is part of what makes (or made) contracting so well-paid: if you want a contractor you have to pay the market rate, whereas permie jobs have their salaries limited by e.g. the manager's salary. Or the bean counters refuse to pay more for a programmer than for an accountant.
That worked for a while, but now ISTM that some of the market edge in contracting has been lost. There are too many contracts, way too many contractors, mostly inexperienced and not all good, so contracting now is just a payroll choice in most cases. It's still hard to get good programmers, but I think that most clients have given up on that and just accept warm bodies, overrunning projects, rubbish customised off-the-shelf packages etc.
Hmm. It is no fun any more.Comment
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@expat & deano: Good posts, points well made. Well done
From my own experiences I have felt the same as the OP (potential burnout etc) as a permie a few years back. My temporary solution at the time was chuck permiedom with all it's politics etc and jump into contracting.
That has worked.. after a fashion, for a few years. I could still earn decent money and if a contract became dull or just plain frustrating, then I could chose to go elsewhere at renewal time. Sometimes I just took time out.
All along I was trying to think of a decent Plan B so I could walk away from IT altogether. As expat says, it's just not fun anymore. Sadly I've failed (so far) to come up with any decent ideas to allow us to live in the manner we wish (which isn't grand just pleasant).
So for now I've just accepted another contract with an old client to top the old company accounts up a bit. I'm waiting for the property market to bottom out and then start to invest again.Do what thou wiltComment
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Is it the IT world or the corporate world?Originally posted by xchaotic View PostBasically I'm tired with the whole IT and corporate world.
One of the things I don't like about contracting is most of the jobs are with big corporate clients, complete with all the big corporate client bulltulip. I'm much more at home in a smaller team where you feel you can make a difference, without wasting half your day dealing with TLAs, PMs, BAs or whatever.
So maybe moving to a different role in the corporate world is not the answer.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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