I don’t really give a tulip any more

[OwlHoot]

Get yourself in small tinpot Co and make code changes directly in the live system ! You can then moan about working practices at the other extreme.

WHS

Been there, last year

[NetwkSupport]

i ask myself the same question every monday morning on the train. My answer is always the same - what other job can pay me this much? I find this IT lark so easy. I'd much rather be brick laying or something outdoors but then all my builder mates moan about working in the rubbish weather and that i've got it good.

the majority of us are in a privalidged position, my plan is to earn as much as poss while the rates are still good for what i do then when i really hate it, move into something i actually have a desire to do....

[OwlHoot]

.. If it's CVS they're OK, if it's Subversion they've got a few too many anal types, ..

That apparent downer on SVN is slightly puzzling, as it's rapidly taking over from CVS and has several obvious advantages.

Are you implying that sites clued up enough to have moved to Subversion are bad news because resident (contractor or, dare I say, even permie) gurus there might reduce your scope for creativity and generally steal your thunder?

I can sort of see that - Gurus can be a PITA, especially permies with firm ideas on exactly how everything should be done.

[gingerjedi]

I agree and that’s from the support side, I used to like being the local IT guy who reacted to problems as and when.

Now I’m part of a global team and I only get to visit a client if the guys in India can’t fix it with their crib sheet and the L2 guys in America can’t fix it with their ‘expertise’, half the time they tell me the problem and I only get involved because of local access issues… where’s the satisfaction in that??

[Mich the Tester]

the majority of us are in a privalidged position, my plan is to earn as much as poss while the rates are still good for what i do then when i really hate it, move into something i actually have a desire to do....

Well there's my point; I've been putting off the big move for years thinking 'I just need a bit more money', but really I'm never likely to decide I have enough and perhaps this recessiony-credity-crunchie-bar thingy is the kick I need to just go and do it.

However, I still enjoy working in a good agile development or RAD team; I just can't find any of them.

[Purple Dalek]

That apparent downer on SVN is slightly puzzling, as it's rapidly taking over from CVS and has several obvious advantages.

Are you implying that sites clued up enough to have moved to Subversion are bad news because resident (contractor or, dare I say, even permie) gurus there might reduce your scope for creativity and generally steal your thunder?

I can sort of see that - Gurus can be a PITA, especially permies with firm ideas on exactly how everything should be done.

Not found any deeper meaning in it than I've noticed this pattern for the last few years. So, no, it is just a pattern, these things just appear to happen together.

[NetwkSupport]

Well there's my point; I've been putting off the big move for years thinking 'I just need a bit more money', but really I'm never likely to decide I have enough and perhaps this recessiony-credity-crunchie-bar thingy is the kick I need to just go and do it.

However, I still enjoy working in a good agile development or RAD team; I just can't find any of them.

Unfortunately my "way out" plan b was a smoothie business started last year, it went under a few months ago. glad i had the balls to try. will try something else in a few years once the reserves are back up again.

all you need is some determination, once you make the leap its easy

[sasguru]

If you want to do interesting stuff and money is not a driver, then academia is just the thing. The road is long and hard though especially if you do it part time - I know, I've just started on it

[BA to the Stars]

Agree that IT has become (even) more boring. I blame the rise of Business Analysts. Not quite sure why though.

sorry

[expat]

Sorry, long post, but bear with me on this.

12 years ago, when I started in IT, it was fun. ....

As an American contributor to another board put it, if the terminal had a coin slot beside it, I'd have been feeding in quarters to get to do more programming.

In my early days I was kicked out by night security, dragged out to the pub by colleagues, etc. Now it's a case of stay on course, where else would I make such money. And I'm ashamed to say I can't come up with a plan B.

Still, it was fun.