Children Seen as "Feral" and "Dangerous"...

[tay]

'Based purely on age' what a plank, with age comes experience and socialisation, without a peer group to indicate right from wrong in the context of the group, the young fail to learn how society functions.

So are you 2?

[DodgyAgent]

I wouldnt mind another adult complaining verbally about my childs behavior in a civil manner, laying hands on them is unacceptable.

I totally agree. I would not tolerate anyone hitting my child. If one of my children misbehaves then I can deal with it myself or the school can.

[Purple Dalek]

I wouldnt mind another adult complaining verbally about my childs behavior in a civil manner, laying hands on them is unacceptable.

Yes, I was reading of a railway worker who saw two children playing on the waggons. He wanted to drag them off, and out of harms way, but was worried he might be charged with assault.

One of the kids died, and the other is left with serious burn injuries.

I guess, you'd be glad that he didn't lay hands on them. Plank.

[Rantor]

When you've finished berating NF, could you get round to answering my question? And you as well Rantor?

Most folk these days are too scared to talk the parents of a mis-behaving child for fear of a broken nose. Even if the parent doesn't look the fighting type, you're still likely to be subjected to some rant about "how I raise my kids is my business".

Simple, I'm not afraid of saying something. I'm coaching my 5 yr olds football team at the moment and some of the kids are a complete pain (really) so I talk to their parents. I've also had the 'mind your own effin business' conversation and I'm happy to answer back on that.

Being honest, there are some situuations where I wouldn't do this if I thought I would get stabbed.

If an adult hit my kid I would find it difficult, if not impossible, to avoid responding in kind. I grew up at a time when parents, teachers & police would hit kids (a slightly different debate IMHO) but other adults hitting kids was not tolerated and I can't see any reason why it should be now.

BTW - are you saying you'd be happy to hit other peoples kids if you thought you wouldn't get a kicking?

[Moscow Mule]

BTW - are you saying you'd be happy to hit other peoples kids if you thought you wouldn't get a kicking?

No, not at all. I'm against hitting other peoples kids. However, I absolutely reserve the right to discipline my kids as I see fit (when they eventually arrive).

My main issue is with irresponsible parents who simply won't discipline their children - regardless of what they have been told by other people, or parents who see fit to blame anybody but themselves for the behaviour of their kids.

Your child is your responsibility - any failings in their character are yours.

[tay]

Yes, I was reading of a railway worker who saw two children playing on the waggons. He wanted to drag them off, and out of harms way, but was worried he might be charged with assault.

One of the kids died, and the other is left with serious burn injuries.

I guess, you'd be glad that he didn't lay hands on them. Plank.

I suggest you stop name calling......

As for the rest of your post, you just look silly comparing dragging kids out of the way of a speeding train and hitting them because they annoy you.

[chicane]

I totally agree. I would not tolerate anyone hitting my child. If one of my children misbehaves then I can deal with it myself or the school can.

What if your kids are out of control to the point where both you and the school are unable to keep them in line? What would you then suggest to the people who are suffering constantly as a result of the ongoing actions of your kids?

I don't condone needlessly knocking kids about, but you have to feel for the poor folk who are constantly suffering at the hands of anti-social behaviour and feel powerless to do anything about it.

[tay]

What if your kids are out of control to the point where both you and the school are unable to keep them in line? What would you then suggest to the people who are suffering constantly as a result of the ongoing actions of your kids?

I don't condone needlessly knocking kids about, but you have to feel for the poor folk who are constantly suffering at the hands of anti-social behaviour and feel powerless to do anything about it.

Thats what the police and social services are for. If you think they are inadequate, that is a different debate.

[Moscow Mule]

What if your kids are out of control to the point where both you and the school are unable to keep them in line? What would you then suggest to the people who are suffering constantly as a result of the ongoing actions of your kids?

I don't condone needlessly knocking kids about, but you have to feel for the poor folk who are constantly suffering at the hands of anti-social behaviour and feel powerless to do anything about it.

On a point of order: It's not the school's job to keep your kids in line, it's their job to educate them along with (roughly) 30 others at the same time.

It's up to you (as a parent) to ensure they behave themselves whilst out of your sight.

Edit: If you can't do that, then consider getting help - either from social services or other parents/family.

[Purple Dalek]

I suggest you stop name calling......

As for the rest of your post, you just look silly comparing dragging kids out of the way of a speeding train and hitting them because they annoy you.

Yes, I guess to the limp-wristed it does appear silly.

I suggest, kids getting a clip round the ear, even if undeserved, is far preferable to kids getting hurt because they've never discovered the boundaries of play before it is too late to learn.

You really can't have it both ways.