Plan to let 50 million African immigrants into EU

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If they cut public sector pensions, they would not need so many people to pay exhorbitant taxes in the future.
Nobody wants to work all of their life to pay other people's pensions and then not have one themselves, but that is precisely the situation that we are in.

It's only fair !!

If we didn't want to pay public sector pensions, we shouldn't have agreed to employ public servants on those terms. But we did (and by "we" I mean all governments including several Conservative), so now our choice is this:
1. keep our word.
2. break our word because we don't fancy paying what we promised to.

That sort of divides us into 2 kinds of people. Which kind are you?

[Cyberman]

If we didn't want to pay public sector pensions, we shouldn't have agreed to employ public servants on those terms. But we did (and by "we" I mean all governments including several Conservative), so now our choice is this:
1. keep our word.
2. break our word because we don't fancy paying what we promised to.

That sort of divides us into 2 kinds of people. Which kind are you?

I never agreed to pay people on those terms and neither did most taxpayers. This is all about the public sector feathering their own nests. The sooner these unsustainable perks are removed the better it will be for the rest of us.
Labour tried to reduce the perks a couple of years ago, but as usual gave into their paymasters, the unions. We need another Thatcher, and quickly.
The current commitment is 1 trillion pounds and something has to give.


Since when did New Lie ever keep their word???!!! The vote on the Lisbon treaty springs to mind immediately.

[DodgyAgent]

If we didn't want to pay public sector pensions, we shouldn't have agreed to employ public servants on those terms. But we did (and by "we" I mean all governments including several Conservative), so now our choice is this:
1. keep our word.
2. break our word because we don't fancy paying what we promised to.

That sort of divides us into 2 kinds of people. Which kind are you?

It is not a question of keeping ones word it is a question of brutal economics. If the public servants swallow up huge amounts of our taxes into paying their pensions then we have a choice to either stop working ourselves or work somewhere else.

If these pensions are going to be paid then either taxes will have to rise or public services will be cut. If everyone decides to stop working or pay themselves salary that is taxed at 90% or work abroad then there will be no cake from which to feed the pensions. I for one will not tolerate any hike in taxes and I would look to relocate DodgyInc somewhere else.

[expat]

It is not a question of keeping ones word it is a question of brutal economics.

I know but don't tell Cyberpot

[expat]

I never agreed to pay people on those terms and neither did most taxpayers. This is all about the public sector feathering their own nests. The sooner these unsustainable perks are removed the better it will be for the rest of us.
Labour tried to reduce the perks a couple of years ago, but as usual gave into their paymasters, the unions. We need another Thatcher, and quickly.
The current commitment is 1 trillion pounds and something has to give.

We had a Thatcher. She didn't change anything about public sector pensions either.

You agreed what your government signed up to. Obviously you personally didn't agree: but if you don't like it, vote for the party that will change it. If there isn't one, start one. That's democracy.

[Purple Dalek]

We had a Thatcher. She didn't change anything about public sector pensions either.

You agreed what your government signed up to. Obviously you personally didn't agree: but if you don't like it, vote for the party that will change it. If there isn't one, start one. That's democracy.

Yes, it was her greatest failing, she should have sorted the civil service out first, but in real-politik, the miners were just begging for it.