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Warning your Boss about Security can get you fired

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    #31
    Being a tester can get you into trouble with Project Managers who are chasing their bonusses and CIOs who don’t want to see the truth. I always feel it’s best to keep your integrity even at the cost of your job; in the long run it’s your professionalism that will get you contracts and pay the bills, and one client can’t change that.
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #32
      My job is to warn people about security, in light of this information is the boards advice that I do nothing?
      B00med!

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        #33
        Originally posted by Advocate View Post
        My job is to warn people about security, in light of this information is the boards advice that I do nothing?
        Correct, in fact you've already told us too much.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Advocate View Post
          My job is to warn people about security, in light of this information is the boards advice that I do nothing?
          Nope, just stick at it. Sometimes I do contracts as a Test Manager and the first things I look for in hiring people is preparedness to tell me the bad news or contradict me if they think I’m going to make a mistake. I’ve even met one project manager who said to me ’keep me honest’. Really, there are managers with integrity, just not very many.
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #35
            Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
            I’ve even met one project manager who said to me ’keep me honest’.
            Sounds like he was coming on to you
            The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

            But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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              #36
              Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
              Sounds like he was Proposing to you
              B00med!

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                #37
                Originally posted by developerhalloween2008 View Post
                I don't imagine the damages I would receive from court action would sufficiently compensate for the long-term damage suing a former employer would do to my career.
                Zero, nadda - there is usually contingencies within a contract to terminate. (PS they are not your employer as such, any claims would be contingent upon proving you were)

                So, let this be a warning: your boss doesn't want to be told (a few days before release) that entire networks of their software could be turned into a zombie botnet by a newbie script kiddie.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
                  No - the beginner is anyone who takes the original post seriously. It is a totally made up story IHMO.
                  Even if it is made up, still an interesting discussion on good contractor behaviour.
                  Cooking doesn't get tougher than this.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                    Being a tester can get you into trouble with Project Managers who are chasing their bonusses and CIOs who don’t want to see the truth. I always feel it’s best to keep your integrity even at the cost of your job; in the long run it’s your professionalism that will get you contracts and pay the bills, and one client can’t change that.
                    I don't thinik anyone was advising just doing nothing. But you can raise the alarm in a way that doesn't insult the people paying your invoice.
                    Cooking doesn't get tougher than this.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TheBigYinJames View Post
                      Even if it is made up, still an interesting discussion on good contractor behaviour.
                      Fair enough, good point, well made.

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