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Official thread for the biggest historical mistakes of Britain

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    #21
    Biggest mistakes of Britain:

    Going back to a monarchy after Oliver Cromwell.

    Not succeeding in assonating Queen Victoria and overthrowing the monarchy, (bet you didn’t know that happened)

    The Enclosures Act. (steeling common land hand handing it over to the gentry)


    The Labour Party and Tony Blair.
    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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      #22
      Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
      We had huge coal reserves and the Victorians quickly pissed them up the wall. Likewise recently we found a little oil and quickly pissed that up the wall too. Mostly all gone now and we didn't bother looking for alternatives or think bout what comes next. Except of course to rely on 'globalisation', which works great as icing on the cake for countries that don't have huge populations. For us globalisation acts as a life-support system reliant on cheap energy that could be turned off in future world crises. We need to change that. If not this will be our biggest mistake.
      Name a free gift, we have pissed it up the wall. We have been in decline since about 1900. For most of the 20th century, we have spent our free gifts trying to keep hold of the Empire; then later, in pretending that we were wealthier than we really were.

      We spent our Marshall Aid on re-establishing the empire, rather than rebuilding our country, and it still shows (not in the empire obviously, but in our infrastructure).

      We spent the oil bonanza on current expenditure in the 1970s and 1980s (yes, 1980s, when most of the oil revenue came in); pretending not to be so poor as we really were, so as not to have to do anything about it.

      If you look around, you can still see signs that we are pretending to be wealthier than we are, as a nation. For example, we boast that we work longer hours than anybody else in Europe. Turned around, that means that our productivity is lower so we have to work more. Not much to boast about.

      Drop in oil prices? It won't show at the pump so much in the UK, because the element of petrol prices that goes to the government is relatively high: that's not because we get more back from our government, it's because we have less money to tax, so it has to be taxed higher.

      PFI? Have your hospital now, pay for it later. Wealthy people don't buy things that way, in the home or in the government; only poor people do.

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        #23
        Giving up on our car industry far too easily and handing the customers to France and Germany et al

        Inventing many things then handing the ideas over for other nations to exploit

        The Iraq War II

        Scraping Concorde
        The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

        But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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          #24
          Originally posted by expat View Post
          Name a free gift, we have pissed it up the wall. We have been in decline since about 1900. For most of the 20th century, we have spent our free gifts trying to keep hold of the Empire; then later, in pretending that we were wealthier than we really were.

          We spent our Marshall Aid on re-establishing the empire, rather than rebuilding our country, and it still shows (not in the empire obviously, but in our infrastructure).

          We spent the oil bonanza on current expenditure in the 1970s and 1980s (yes, 1980s, when most of the oil revenue came in); pretending not to be so poor as we really were, so as not to have to do anything about it.

          If you look around, you can still see signs that we are pretending to be wealthier than we are, as a nation. For example, we boast that we work longer hours than anybody else in Europe. Turned around, that means that our productivity is lower so we have to work more. Not much to boast about.

          Drop in oil prices? It won't show at the pump so much in the UK, because the element of petrol prices that goes to the government is relatively high: that's not because we get more back from our government, it's because we have less money to tax, so it has to be taxed higher.

          PFI? Have your hospital now, pay for it later. Wealthy people don't buy things that way, in the home or in the government; only poor people do.
          Yep the old bottle is half empty

          You sound like a bunch of old farts sitting in a pub in the middle of a village with nothing better to do than moan
          Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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            #25
            Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
            Yep the old bottle is half empty

            You sound like a bunch of old farts sitting in a pub in the middle of a village with nothing better to do than moan
            Like these two?
            How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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              #26
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              Yep the old bottle is half empty

              You sound like a bunch of old farts sitting in a pub in the middle of a village with nothing better to do than moan
              DA - that's you, that is

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                #27
                Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                  #28
                  Jade Goody

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                    #29
                    Biggest mistakes of Britain ?

                    issuing orders to the light cavalry at Balaclava that were ambiguous. Not taking into account that the general could see the lie of the land but the commanding officer could not. Lastly, and most important, using a headstrong officer to deliver that order.





                    Last edited by EternalOptimist; 21 October 2008, 07:51.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
                      Biggest mistakes of Britain ?

                      issuing orders to the light cavalry at Balaclava that were ambigous. Not taking into account that the general could see the lie of the land but the commanding officer could not. Lastly, and most important, using a headstrong officer to deliver that order.





                      They were planning the attack using Prince 2.
                      "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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