Britain is very leftie liberal

[DodgyAgent]

Britain's only viable future lies in commitment to the EU. Time we stopped sitting on the fence: join the Euro, join Schengen, see where our future lies.

I reflect on that every Monday morning, as I file up the steps to the plane, with all the other guys with laptop bags, off to work in some other EU country. When you get to Frankfurt or Amsterdam, you don't see corresponding quues of knowledge workers heading the other way to find work.

Tell me again how much better our economy is working? You have been drinking the US Kool-aid, which they feed us because they have a use for us where we are. It isn't doing us any good.

Oh ye of such a short memory. We do not need the Euro and we do not need to be goverened by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. Since the inception of the Euro the leading economies within the Eu have had very little growth leaving only the Uk and Ireland to attract foreign investment and create jobs.

For a year the Uk has been in difficulty and interestingly all these sad little expats who are clearly not convinced that they have done the right thing by moiving abroad (why else wouild they keep banging on about how great everywhere else is? and sneering everytime there is bad news in the Uk) are chuckling away to themselves, even though things are little better where they are.

The only reason why It jobs are not being offloaded to India is because Indians do not speak German or Dutch.

[hyperD]

I heard a minion from the nu liebour dark side saying how he wants the school curriculum changed to incorporate "The Study and History of Trade Unions" as it was now a quintessential element of our society. When challenged he added that it would be at the expense of another module of education, like Maths, Physics, Geography or Biology as it was an important part of our society.

I also found out that since 2002 there is now a compulsory module called Citizenship that is taught.

If we want to our country to be competitive and prosperous and to eradicate any socialistic baggage from our society, it has to begin by removing the socialist cancer that has infiltrated our educational system.

Until then, everything else we do is simply cropping the leaves rather than pulling out the roots.

[ace00]

Oh ye of such a short memory. We do not need the Euro and we do not need to be goverened by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. Since the inception of the Euro the leading economies within the Eu have had very little growth leaving only the Uk and Ireland to attract foreign investment and create jobs.
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The only reason why It jobs are not being offloaded to India is because Indians do not speak German or Dutch.

Oh that is such a crock of ill-informed s**te.
Really, I don't know where to start. Read the Sun a lot by any chance?

But the big picture is UK needs to decide it's future. A back-water drifting into obscurity or part of the European project. There's plenty wrong with Brussels but we should be working to improve it, not just saying "sod you, we're gonna be mates with the septics".

I am very much pro-Europe.

[DodgyAgent]

Oh that is such a crock of ill-informed s**te.
Really, I don't know where to start. Read the Sun a lot by any chance?

But the big picture is UK needs to decide it's future. A back-water drifting into obscurity or part of the European project. There's plenty wrong with Brussels but we should be working to improve it, not just saying "sod you, we're gonna be mates with the septics".

I am very much pro-Europe.

The Uk for the last 10 years has attracted more investment from foreign companies than any of the 3 major economies of Europe. It has had the lowest levels of unemployment of Germany, France and Italy, and though it may now be squandering the legacy of Thatcher and signing up to all the Brussels laws on hiuman rights and working time directives, it has still outgrown france Germany, Italy and France year in year out.

I am also very pro Europe, but I dont wear it as a badge to show everyone that I am "with it", "cool" or whatever.

For the Euro to work it has to have much more flexibility in its leading economies than it has.

[BrianSnail]

it has still outgrown france Germany, Italy and France year in year out.

And France.

[DodgyAgent]

And France.

[contractor79]

I would agree UK needs to decide to go fully into EU or be independent. It's a joke we work harder than rest of EU, have more defence, more taxes etc. and end up paying them so much, then have them tell us what to do in 80% of our laws. Either be independent and have trading agreements with EU and America or be a part of EU. If we're wise we'd choose the former. The leftie-liebrals will choose the latter as they want to submit UK to a godless socialist regime which aspires to be communist.

[DodgyAgent]

I would agree UK needs to decide to go fully into EU or be independent. It's a joke we work harder than rest of EU, have more defence, more taxes etc. and end up paying them so much, then have them tell us what to do in 80% of our laws. Either be independent and have trading agreements with EU and America or be a part of EU. If we're wise we'd choose the former. The leftie-liebrals will choose the latter as they want to submit UK to a godless socialist regime which aspires to be communist.

Are you for real?

[expat]

The Uk for the last 10 years has attracted more investment from foreign companies than any of the 3 major economies of Europe. It has had the lowest levels of unemployment of Germany, France and Italy, and though it may now be squandering the legacy of Thatcher and signing up to all the Brussels laws on hiuman rights and working time directives, it has still outgrown france Germany, Italy and France year in year out.

I am also very pro Europe, but I dont wear it as a badge to show everyone that I am "with it", "cool" or whatever.

For the Euro to work it has to have much more flexibility in its leading economies than it has.

On the working time, the sad fact is that the British need to work more hours than the French or the Germans to achieve the same level of GNP/head, i.e. to cover up lower productivity.

As for unemployment, I'd hazard a guess that you don't believe the NL figures any more than I do.

And I am not one of the "sad little expats who are clearly not convinced that they have done the right thing by moving abroad": I live in the UK and would dearly love to work in it too.

Thatcher did a one-time fix on a very sick economy, and helped it to jump back to something like where it should have been. But that is not a long-term recipe, and the EU for all its faults is where we belong, now.

[ratewhore]

On the working time, the sad fact is that the British need to work more hours than the French or the Germans to achieve the same level of GNP/head, i.e. to cover up lower productivity.

As for unemployment, I'd hazard a guess that you don't believe the NL figures any more than I do.

And I am not one of the "sad little expats who are clearly not convinced that they have done the right thing by moving abroad": I live in the UK and would dearly love to work in it too.

Thatcher did a one-time fix on a very sick economy, and helped it to jump back to something like where it should have been. But that is not a long-term recipe, and the EU for all its faults is where we belong, now.

Milan