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    #21
    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
    Depends on the circumstances. If there's nobody behind you, then there's no point, and to do so would be silly. On the other hand, if somebody is coming up behind you at 90mph, you could easily move over and move back without slowing either of you up. So why wouldn't you?
    If someone behind me in lane 2 is zooming up at 90 MPH, why would they not pull over into lane 3?

    Why should I eat into someones 2 second safety gap and cause them to hit the brakes? Surely if you are travelling much faster, you should be overtaking me, not expecting me to risk safety of others and pull into a small gap to save you the effort of overtaking.

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      #22
      Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
      If someone behind me in lane 2 is zooming up at 90 MPH, why would they not pull over into lane 3?.
      Probably because lane 3 is jam packed with a large queue of traffic doing 80 mph inches from each other because of one slow person that's decided to pull out to overtake a van that's half a mile ahead of them.

      Why should I eat into someones 2 second safety gap and cause them to hit the brakes
      If you're overtaking somebdoy (as you must be to be in the middle lane), you're not going to cause them to brake by pulling in mometarily.
      Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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        #23
        Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
        If you're overtaking somebdoy (as you must be to be in the middle lane), you're not going to cause them to brake by pulling in mometarily.
        You shouldn't really enter someone elses 2 second gap
        Coffee's for closers

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          #24
          Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
          Probably because lane 3 is jam packed with a large queue of traffic doing 80 mph inches from each other because of one slow person that's decided to pull out to overtake a van that's half a mile ahead of them.



          If you're overtaking somebdoy (as you must be to be in the middle lane), you're not going to cause them to brake by pulling in mometarily.
          If all 3 lanes are very busy, should you really be zooming up to someone at 90 MPH?

          Have you seen what happens when a car crashes at 90 MPH on a busy motorway?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
            You shouldn't really enter someone elses 2 second gap
            No, but you have to apply some common sense. Causing a big queue of faster traffic to brake and close up to avoid you is more dangerous than pulling back into the inside lane a bit too close to a lorry that you're going faster than anyway. And it's precisely the former that causes traffic jams.

            Slow people should just learn their place and stay out the way. If you must overtake, do it as quick as you can.
            Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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              #26
              Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
              No, but you have to apply some common sense. Causing a big queue of faster traffic to brake and close up to avoid you is more dangerous than pulling back into the inside lane a bit too close to a lorry that you're going faster than anyway. And it's precisely the former that causes traffic jams.

              Slow people should just learn their place and stay out the way. If you must overtake, do it as quick as you can.
              You sound like a dangerous driver. Misplaced speeding, tail-gaiting and impatient.

              If I am overtaking the left lane and I suddenly pull in to allow you to hog the middle lane at 90 on a packed motorway, I will have to apply my brakes to avoid hitting the slower lorry in the safety gap infront. The lorry behind in the left lane will see a car pull in quickly with the brakes applied and will hit his brakes instinctively.

              Nice work.

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                #27
                Originally posted by moorfield View Post
                I like to use these drivers to test my reaction times and brakes, and check the xenons are working ok on full beam.
                Rule #76: No excuses. Play like a champion.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                  No, but you have to apply some common sense. Causing a big queue of faster traffic to brake and close up to avoid you is more dangerous than pulling back into the inside lane a bit too close to a lorry that you're going faster than anyway. And it's precisely the former that causes traffic jams.

                  Slow people should just learn their place and stay out the way. If you must overtake, do it as quick as you can.
                  I hate lane hoggers, but that is just wrong.
                  If a vehicle in front is overtaking then it is up to the vehicle behind to adjust their speed so as not to brake when approaching.
                  Bullying someone into a dangerous manouvre is crazy.

                  COMMON SENSE PEOPLE.
                  I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                  The original point and click interface by
                  Smith and Wesson.

                  Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                    COMMON SENSE PEOPLE.
                    That would solve a lot of problems.
                    Rule #76: No excuses. Play like a champion.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                      If I am overtaking the left lane and I suddenly pull in to allow you to hog the middle lane at 90 on a packed motorway, I will have to apply my brakes to avoid hitting the slower lorry in the safety gap infront. The lorry behind in the left lane will see a car pull in quickly with the brakes applied and will hit his brakes instinctively.
                      Ah but you won't. I wouldn't suggest you pull in if you couldn't do so without having to brake, only that as qualified drivers we ought to be able to judge speed and distance well enough to pull off the manouvre without either of us having to brake.

                      That's not the problem. The problem is the middle laner in this instance would stay in the middle lane because there's another lorry ahead which they won't reach for more than a minute. More than enough time for them to move over, let the faster car through, and move back.

                      And actually, I'm more talking about 2 lane dual carrigeways than motorways. Most my previous commute was on a 2 lane dual carrigeway, and I admit that often you'd have to drive like an idiot because it was the only way to avoid being constantly held up.
                      Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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