The value of a non-scientific education ...

[lambrini_socialist]

...is virtually nil, IMHO.
Plenty of slightly clever people study pseudo-sciences like Economics or Politics etc. yet have no clue about the value or not of their so-called knowledge. They don't have a clue about the epistemological basis of their discipline - but are good at writing essays and passing exams.
I would wager that I could get an advanced degree in any non-scientific discipline purely by sticking to the current zeitgeist.
If people can't grasp the basics of the scientific method or the mathematical and statistical underpinnings of evidence-based knowledge, what fliping use are their opinions?

holy fck this place is beyond parody...

[TimberWolf]

holy fck this place is beyond parody...

Is that good or bad?

[DodgyAgent]

I was taught

Politics is about power
Power is about getting people to do things they would not do voluntarily


The philosophical angle is hogwash. What would happen if all the philosophers in the world went on strike tomorrow ?

So you measure power by the negative dynamic of getting as many people to do what they dont want to do, even if that ends up diminishing your own position?

So if for example I want to dominate the recruitment industry and become the most powerful person in it, I would only succeed by getting all those around me to do what they dont want to do? What if everyone around me by getting what they want also enabled me to get what I want?

I would sue your teacher if I were you.

[EternalOptimist]

So you measure power by the negative dynamic of getting as many people to do what they dont want to do, even if that ends up diminishing your own position?

So if for example I want to dominate the recruitment industry and become the most powerful person in it, I would only succeed by getting all those around me to do what they dont want to do? What if everyone around me by getting what they want also enabled me to get what I want?

I would sue your teacher if I were you.

er..

I didnt talk about measuring
I didnt talk about market domination


I am sure the best way for you to dominate your particular niche is for you to get your people to pull in harness with you. For your interests and theirs to coincide. I dont think anyone would disagree with you.

You might persuade them
You might coerce them
You might bribe them

You might get them to pull with you in a million different ways, BUT

If they dont want to go along, the definition of power is that you can make them do it anyways

I dont want to pay my corporation tax in August. but I will.



I hate to say it, and I am probably wrong, I usually am, but I think you may, possibly be missing the point

[SueEllen]

Yeeeeaaahhh grrrooovvyy bbbaabbbyyy!

Isn't that 60's?

[DodgyAgent]

er..


If they dont want to go along, the definition of power is that you can make them do it anyways

Which is not what you said originally

[EternalOptimist]

Which is not what you said originally

Power is about getting people to do things they would not do voluntarily




Dont post when you have been doing drugs Dodgy

[BrilloPad]

Isn't that 60's?

Its a fair cop!

Roll out the barrel....

[Francko]

...is virtually nil, IMHO.
Plenty of slightly clever people study pseudo-sciences like Economics or Politics etc. yet have no clue about the value or not of their so-called knowledge. They don't have a clue about the epistemological basis of their discipline - but are good at writing essays and passing exams.
I would wager that I could get an advanced degree in any non-scientific discipline purely by sticking to the current zeitgeist.
If people can't grasp the basics of the scientific method or the mathematical and statistical underpinnings of evidence-based knowledge, what fliping use are their opinions?

Your brain is just uncapable of the minimum logical connection. First you claim that to do technical jobs you only need an average intelligence. Now you are claiming that only people with science knowledge are of value. What's the purpose of your posts? And of your life in general?

[OwlHoot]

Also, science needn't be boring these days. For example there's Britney Spears' Guide to Semiconductor Physics