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    #11
    Originally posted by zeitghost
    I'd sell mine too, but Giant Alien Lizards don't have souls.
    21 Grams...

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      #12
      Originally posted by Lucifer Box
      Ah, now that's woolly permie short term thinking for you, Franco. By taking that £350/day junior PM role for 9 months, I was able to secure a rate of £1,000/day on the following gig. Which lasted two and a half years. Which was nice.
      mmm... sounds like a fairy tale. Once you are in a certain rate, in my experience but I might be wrong, it's hard to go up a lot more. Unless that must be one of the very few clients who actually recognise your value, but I bet how many do you have to stop by before finding one?
      I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Lucifer Box
        Ah, now that's woolly permie short term thinking for you, Franco. By taking that £350/day junior PM role for 9 months, I was able to secure a rate of £1,000/day on the following gig. Which lasted two and a half years. Which was nice.
        How old were you, Lucifer?
        Autom...Sprow...Canna...Tik banna...Sandwol...But no sera smee

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          #14
          Originally posted by Francko
          mmm... sounds like a fairy tale. Once you are in a certain rate, in my experience but I might be wrong, it's hard to go up a lot more. Unless that must be one of the very few clients who actually recognise your value, but I bet how many do you have to stop by before finding one?

          Franco you are 100% right, I think you should stick to your permie job

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            #15
            Originally posted by Francko
            mmm... sounds like a fairy tale. Once you are in a certain rate, in my experience but I might be wrong, it's hard to go up a lot more. Unless that must be one of the very few clients who actually recognise your value, but I bet how many do you have to stop by before finding one?
            As you like, Franco. You stay put in your permie job like a good fellow. On no account give in to ambition.

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              #16
              Originally posted by WageSlave
              How old were you, Lucifer?
              32 when I did the cheapo PM gig. Although my first PM gig was at the age of 28, I did the cheapo one because it was in a niche field and correctly reasoned it would lead on to bigger and more lucrative things. Which it did. Which was nice.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Lucifer Box
                As you like, Franco. You stay put in your permie job like a good fellow. On no account give in to ambition.
                How would you rate the probability of your rate to be increased more than 300% then the probability that you will be stuck to a low rate as the previous one was? Wouldn't it be wiser to wait to find an already decent rate?

                Yours was more an exception rather than the rule, I believe.
                I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.

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                  #18
                  London - no ta!

                  There's no rate that would tempt me to work in London right now. I hated the place before a bunch of loons started running around with rucksac bombs strapped to their backs.

                  You can keep it!
                  Guy Fawkes - "The last man to enter Parliament with honourable intentions."

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                    #19
                    You can get a better rate than that just by programming java, no business knowledge required.

                    What's with it looking out to achieve more stress?
                    Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Francko
                      How would you rate the probability of your rate to be increased more than 300% then the probability that you will be stuck to a low rate as the previous one was? Wouldn't it be wiser to wait to find an already decent rate? Yours was more an exception rather than the rule, I believe.
                      Well, Franco, as with most things you might not achieve something you are trying for. However, I can guarantee you won't if you don't even try.

                      In my case, by thinking ahead and acting accordingly, I believe I significantly increased my chances. I used two gigs to combine two areas of expertise on my CV to create a highly desirable combination - well worth taking a rate cut for. However, if you think sitting around waiting for someone to break the door down and offer you your dream contract is a better bet, feel free to do that.

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