Java Training

[WageSlave]

'C' - Become an expert in "C" and ultimately "C++" you'll never be out of work.

C++ is a horrible, horrible, horrible language. Or perhaps I'm just too stupid to grasp it properly

[SupremeSpod]

C++ is a horrible, horrible, horrible language. Or perhaps I'm just too stupid to grasp it properly

Which is why there'll always be work for the likes of yours truly.

[WageSlave]

But Spod, you are forgetting that languages come and languages go. C++ won't be around forever. Eventually the .NET gravy train will run dry, and there will be some new fangled language to master.

[DimPrawn]

Best way to learn is to do. Therefore put together an application that covers as many aspects of the Java framework as possible. e.g. a server based app with a web (JSP) UI that maniplutes files, databases, XML, emails, etc complete with security and deployment aspects.

That way you are learning the building blocks that most companies are interested in. Along the way you will end up reading online articles, downloading similiar code and components and learn a lot as you put your system together.

Best way IMHO.

Alternatively learn .NET and do the same thing much more quickly and earn more money into the bargain.

[SupremeSpod]

But Spod, you are forgetting that languages come and languages go. C++ won't be around forever. Eventually the .NET gravy train will run dry, and there will be some new fangled language to master.

Who mentioned .NET? I'm not on the Gravy Train, I'm working in Consumer Electronics, Loadsa Work.

[rootsnall]

There's loads of free ( too much ) Java stuff on the web ( goto Sun site ) and you could teach yourself easy enough if you are disciplined enough. However I'd get a decent book ( look at reviews on Amazon ) to atleast give yourself a bit of structure. I managed to write a few apps ( as suggested here ) when I was last out of work and I looked at the certification stuff and it didn't look that hard if you use the study guides. I'm still debating if I should learn Java or C# as my next potential earner, both are paying good money in the City at the moment. Swinging towards C# but I think either will provide enough work doing bog standard coding for the forseeable future. I think grasping OO and learning the development platforms is harder than the languages themselves, if you've done C/C++ they are both a doddle. Blagging the first job is the hardest bit and I reckon certification would defo help.

[WageSlave]

Who mentioned .NET? I'm not on the Gravy Train, I'm working in Consumer Electronics, Loadsa Work.

I know you didn't mention it. I mentioned it simply as an example of a popular 'language' that will eventually dry up and be replaced by the next (not quite) great thing.

[SupremeSpod]

I know you didn't mention it. I mentioned it simply as an example of a popular 'language' that will eventually dry up and be replaced by the next (not quite) great thing.

.NET isn't a language. You can program in the .NET framework with COBOL, C++, even Visual Basic!

[WageSlave]

.NET isn't a language. You can program in the .NET framework with COBOL, C++, even Visual Basic!

Hence my use of 'language' rather than language.

[SandyDown]

'C' - Become an expert in "C" and ultimately "C++" you'll never be out of work.

So are you a c++ support monkey