Immigrants, house prices, it's all here

[expat]

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PS It is those bosses and their greed who mainly drive this nonsense, not the politically correct.

Agreed. It is the same in catering and agriculture as in IT: there is no shortage of skills, just a shortage of people willing to do the work for what employers want to pay. Pay the rate for the job and you will get all the staff you need.

[Ruprect]

Don't panic! we're still going to get the immigration we need! Brown has decided to ignore the report:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7324485.stm

[AtW]

Actually, since we are all skilled, educated workers here, what we really want is more low skilled immigrants with less qualifications and fewer highly educated immigrants.

It may seem so, but it's a wrong point of view IMO. Consider if I wasn't in this country - I'd then work for offshoring business and would certainly help take out a lot of jobs out of this country. The best IT people from around the world should be able to come here to work and live - this way their cost base will be the same as yours, and offshore companies there will be deprived of the best people. Sure competition locally might be harder, however this would seriously limit potential for offshoring.

[AtW]

there is no shortage of skills, just a shortage of people willing to do the work for what employers want to pay.

Turns out locals prefer to be on unemployment benefits rather than pick strawberries or hard labour work like this. If job rate for picking up strawberries would go up to satisfy those lazy on-benefits-locals then it would result not in boost to inflation, but simply local producers will go bust as they would have no chance of competing with imports. In effect in this case cheaper imported labour helps save remnants of local manufacturing.

The preferred solution of course would be got Govt to tell people on benefits that they have to work or lose benefits.

[Dow Jones]

Couple on BBC this morning

They must think that most (if not all) voters are mentally retarded. There was a young couple from Latvia on the BBC Breakfast News that were looking to buy a house and were being interviewed about the benefits that they enjoy (free health/education/benefits/etc/etc). The young min ger said 'We are earning min wage and I think we are entitled to all the benefits (inc. £ 5000 pa nursery fees). If I were interviewing them, I would ask them: 'How the fu ck are you buying the house then if you are on min wage??' To which the honest answer would have been: 'Cos me and my partner get cash in hand, innit??' Don't you think we've got enough of those home-grown spongers already?'

[gingerjedi]

An important quote which puts NL's side:

Liam Byrne, the immigration minister, said last night: "This report is a welcome contribution to our huge immigration shake-up.

"It proves we were right to set up the independent Migration Advisory Committee to tell us which workers our new Australian-style points system should keep out or let in."

However, the committee was "not persuaded" that this represented the radical overhaul that was needed.

Twats...

Did Australia have mass unchecked immigration before they put their system in place then? They're not comparing apples with apples are they.

[meridian]

Did Australia have mass unchecked immigration before they put their system in place then? They're not comparing apples with apples are they.

Yes, but those immigrants were white, innit?

[Lucifer Box]

Did Australia have mass unchecked immigration before they put their system in place then? They're not comparing apples with apples are they.

Be fair, they had to pay a tenner to get in.

[hyperD]

If I were interviewing them, I would ask them: 'How the fu ck are you buying the house then if you are on min wage??'

It's the same as how someone with no visible means of income can magic £7000 for a holiday in Goa...

Liebour's view on immigration is:-

1. Whatever the large liebour coffer paying big business want

2. To use it as a means to attack an opposition party through leftie-sympathetic media tugging on the champagne socialist heartstrings

3. To pay lip service to cap it whenever an anti-immigration opposition party looks like making a swing in the marginals.


I spoke to someone today who took the UK Citizen Test - a pile of politically correct twaddle that is either trivial, irrelevant, advertising welfare and a deliberate sleight of hand to disguise the real problem of not having a proper border security system.

[AtW]

I spoke to someone today who took the UK Citizen Test - a pile of politically correct twaddle that is either trivial, irrelevant, advertising welfare and a deliberate sleight of hand to disguise the real problem of not having a proper border security system.

The idea behind UK Citizen test is that those who can't understand English wont' get passports. I took it and it is fairly easy, IMO, they should have replaced it with Cambridge Proficiency test - if you pass that well then you are probably good enough.