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Theres no blody support JOBS!!!

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    #41
    Originally posted by bogeyman View Post
    That's hardly 'rocket science' either.

    That's the trouble. Too many people have had an easy ride in the good times and think their 'skills' are somehow rare and hard to come by, and that they deserve 'decent rates'.
    I would not say my skills are rare I just refuse to work for crap, so some jumped up glorified telephone operator can cream off the rate.

    Low grade in mentioned but i imagine the only people that will always be needed in years to come is support, installation work and project managers.
    with most of the development work subbed out to india or some where just as cheap.

    For the record I don`t intend to stay in IT, just hanging on as circumstances at the moment allow me to. Also i have renovated my house and sold over the past year so it`s not just laziness.
    Last edited by unemployed; 1 April 2008, 21:24.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Likely View Post
      You should become a plumber.
      super mario ?

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        #43
        Originally posted by Likely View Post
        You should become a plumber.
        I'm still tempted to train up as a plumber. Certainly less grief than IT.

        An ex permie manager from many moons ago tried setting up his own franchise. It didn't go to plan though and he lost a big wad of cash. I reckon he was thinking too big, too soon. He said there are too many in the game.

        Anyone know any plumbers?
        Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway.

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          #44
          Originally posted by miffy View Post
          I'm still tempted to train up as a plumber. Certainly less grief than IT.

          An ex permie manager from many moons ago tried setting up his own franchise. It didn't go to plan though and he lost a big wad of cash. I reckon he was thinking too big, too soon. He said there are too many in the game.

          Anyone know any plumbers?
          That`s the problem there are too many in every game. Low grade contruction work is all done by poles now.

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            #45
            Originally posted by unemployed View Post
            That`s the problem there are too many in every game.
            Indeed.

            An old work colleague emigrated to NZ in 2004 and he's coming back next week (said it's too quiet for him).

            I think he's in for a shock when he gets back. Has the credit crunch reached NZ yet?
            Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway.

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              #46
              Originally posted by unemployed View Post
              try being benched for 104 weeks
              Dude are you serious?
              Don't ask Beaker. He's just another muppet.

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                #47
                Originally posted by beaker View Post
                Dude are you serious?
                yep

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                  #48
                  Why dont you stretch the truth on your CV, focus more on technical skills rather than you were doing support, should open up more developer roles, no shame in haming it up a bit. I feel lucky lots seem on the bench at the moment, keep your pecker up

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by unemployed View Post
                    I would not say my skills are rare I just refuse to work for crap, so some jumped up glorified telephone operator can cream off the rate.

                    Low grade in mentioned but i imagine the only people that will always be needed in years to come is support, installation work and project managers.
                    with most of the development work subbed out to india or some where just as cheap.
                    Business analysts, architects, non-junior DBAs.
                    Those whose job involves telling the boss when he's wrong.
                    People who need to communicate with company-internal users on serious topics.
                    People who handle sensitive information.
                    People that the bosses need to talk to, or even just want to have around to yell at (the boss will not yell at India, he'll yell at you and you'll yell at them).
                    Those in performance tuning, efficiency, and final testing.
                    Those whose job depends on really understanding the impact on the business.
                    Those who need to integrate a wide range of skills in the people around them.

                    Development as I learned it decades ago is already gone.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bumfluff View Post
                      Why dont you stretch the truth on your CV, focus more on technical skills rather than you were doing support, should open up more developer roles, no shame in haming it up a bit. I feel lucky lots seem on the bench at the moment, keep your pecker up
                      My pecker is up as we speak

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