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National DNA Database Compulsary?

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    #31
    Personally I'm sickened that this ever came to a national debate. What do you think your government is there for?

    There was a good piece in the observer yesterday about this - pointing out that both of the offenders were picked up due to the fact that they had committed other crimes.

    We need a government that is representative of the people and respectful of their privacy. This government is the opposite of that. New Labour New Socialism - we're currently sleepwalking towards an Orwellian police state. Please lets do something about it before its too late.
    "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "


    Thomas Jefferson

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      #32
      Originally posted by Troll View Post
      My gut reaction is to say no to national sampling as I have done nothing wrong - but if because of this someone went undetected to commit another crime is that right?
      No it's not.

      I understand what you are saying, yes, what if someone who is realised early commits another crime, what if someone who social services fail to assess properly and make a poor decision is realised early and commits crime, no one can argue with this.

      All these stories tell me, when I read them, is the drastic failing of our once proud services who are now struggling in an overcrowded overcommitted country.

      I think it would be all too easy for everyone to turn on the blinkers and not see this argument for what it is, from the position of the government, one quick solution to solve all problems. What an arrogant lazy assumption.

      Bottom line, at no point should the liberties of the masses be sacrificed for the criminal few.

      PS. Queenie would you please sack your government, they are failing those who they are meant to serve.
      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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        #33
        Originally posted by Troll View Post
        All valid points... but if, God forbid something untoward happened to your kids would you be so negative?

        If we had a Yorkshire Ripper style serial killer on the loose (and remember he innocent women too) would it not be helpful in tracking down the suspect before he killed again?
        Why do people insist on dragging up this emotional chestnut?

        Think of the kiddies, oh my god think of the kiddies!!!!

        Get ****ed!

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          #34
          Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
          Bottom line, at no point should the liberties of the masses be sacrificed for the criminal few.


          Well said.
          "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "


          Thomas Jefferson

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            #35
            Originally posted by Churchill View Post
            Why do people insist on dragging up this emotional chestnut?

            Think of the kiddies, oh my god think of the kiddies!!!!

            Get ****ed!
            Well said.

            Anyone who is against a national DNA database is effectively giving the green light to criminals to kill all our children and rape our wives. Something like that.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Churchill View Post
              Why do people insist on dragging up this emotional chestnut?

              Think of the kiddies, oh my god think of the kiddies!!!!

              Get ****ed!
              Because the most emotional crimes are those that involve children who are unable to physically defend themselves and rely on adults to protect them

              The rest tends to be the usual outside the kebab shop Saturday night type stuff

              HTH
              How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                #37
                Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                Well said.

                Anyone who is against a national DNA database is effectively giving the green light to criminals to kill all our children and rape our wives. Something like that.
                Most children are killed by people who are well-known to them and in fact related to them.

                And most rapes are done by men well-known to the woman.
                "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                  Most children are killed by people who are well-known to them and in fact related to them.

                  And most rapes are done by men well-known to the woman.
                  I know. But without the emotional blackmail, how are the New Lie going to reach their dystopian goals?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                    Most children are killed by people who are well-known to them and in fact related to them
                    and they are the ones that are usually easy to solve with existing techniques.

                    It's the attacks by strangers that this (mainly) would address
                    How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                      All these stories tell me, when I read them, is the drastic failing of our once proud services who are now struggling in an overcrowded overcommitted country.
                      So it's the fault of the immigrants.... like it!
                      How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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