This makes me sick

[TheFaQQer]

Other countries have a higher percentage of gun ownership per capita than the US, but have a significantly lower incidence of gun crime.

Canada, I think, and possibly somewhere like Sweden, IIRC.

I remember someone shooting up a shopping mall near us when I lived in Pennsylvania. The shop that sold him the M16 said that they had taken appropriate steps to ensure that he was of sound mind before selling the gun.

They produced the questionnaire that all gun purchasers had to complete, where it clearly showed that he had ticked the box marked "No" to the question "Are you mentally ill?"

[Moscow Mule]

They produced the questionnaire that all gun purchasers had to complete, where it clearly showed that he had ticked the box marked "No" to the question "Are you mentally ill?"

They've updated it now IIRC - it now has a question after that one that says

"Are you sure?"

[TheFaQQer]

Bullet control is a better form of action than gun control.

Make the cost of bullets $5000 a time and they wouldn't do it. Gun lobby defence is that they have "the right to bear arms" as it's in the Constitution (or Bill of Rights - I forget which).

Getting annoyed with someone to the extent that you want to kill them takes on a whole different aspect if you need to go and get a second job / take out a bank loan to pay for it! Random mass killings - at $50000 a time they wouldn't.

[TheFaQQer]

They've updated it now IIRC - it now has a question after that one that says

"Are you sure?"

Just to make doubly sure, the final question asks "Are you a fish?"

[PAH]

With regards to the access bit I guess if you have made your mind up this is the route you are going to go down you would probably be resourceful enough to get hold of one somehow anyway.

Not sure about that. I don't know where I'd start if I wanted to get my hands on a gun, at the same time not wanting to risk getting my collar felt. As soon as you go to an unknown contact you risk falling into a trap.

I suppose the internet would enlighten me though!

[Moscow Mule]

Not sure about that. I don't know where I'd start if I wanted to get my hands on a gun, at the same time not wanting to risk getting my collar felt. As soon as you go to an unknown contact you risk falling into a trap.

I suppose the internet would enlighten me though!

Just ask any kid waiting at a bus stop in Brixton. Quite a high risk strategy though.

[Dow Jones]

The argument here is...

Licenced and controlled guns vs unlicenced and random ownership of them.
The risk assessment is same as has been for/against arming the police for the last 10 years or so, namely increase of deaths and violence. Actually the opposite is true, hence more and more police carry them these days. What is wrong with a responsible citizen carrying a gun? He can use it as a means to defend himself from attack and thereby save police and prison time and resources. Secondly he can practise his shooting in a controlled environment which could also be used by some of the thugs to let off steam and aggression (Norman Tebbit suggestion). Thirdly it acts as a strong deterrant (same as the police carrying one). I can't see anything wrong with any of the above, but I expect some of you might.

[oracleslave]

I suppose the internet would enlighten me though!

Quick search revealed the following:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...1/ai_n12745417

"1 hour is the time it takes to convert a Brocock ME28 Magnum air pistol into a lethal weapon that fires bullets"

[TheFaQQer]

Licenced and controlled guns vs unlicenced and random ownership of them.
The risk assessment is same as has been for/against arming the police for the last 10 years or so, namely increase of deaths and violence. Actually the opposite is true, hence more and more police carry them these days. What is wrong with a responsible citizen carrying a gun? He can use it as a means to defend himself from attack and thereby save police and prison time and resources. Secondly he can practise his shooting in a controlled environment which could also be used by some of the thugs to let off steam and aggression (Norman Tebbit suggestion). Thirdly it acts as a strong deterrant (same as the police carrying one). I can't see anything wrong with any of the above, but I expect some of you might.

Because they don't leave them in a safe place, get robbed and then the number of illegal handguns on the streets increases.

Not sure I'd want my grandad carrying a loaded gun around with him - no idea who he could take out with it. He's a responsible citizen so would he be allowed one? If not, why not? Where do you draw the line as to who can have them and who can't?

Most people don't have the instinct to shoot someone at point blank range anyway, so would it act as a deterrent? Probably not. It doesn't seem to work in America, after all.

[TheFaQQer]

Quick search revealed tge following:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...1/ai_n12745417

"1 hour is the time it takes to convert a Bronoddy ME28 Magnum air pistol into a lethal weapon that fires bullets"

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