When will they ban guns?

[AtW]

Why? From my observations the police in the UK are very good at getting murderers, however it does not help the victim much.

[AtW]

A. K. A. "Collateral Damage"...

Every year 3500 people die from car accidents, cars ain't banned - thats one 7/7 every week and everyone accepts it. How many gun deaths were happening due to legal gun ownership until that tragic incident in 1996 when that crazy guy shot kids in school?

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Every year 3500 people die from car accidents, cars ain't banned - thats one 7/7 every week and everyone accepts it. How many gun deaths were happening due to legal gun ownership until that tragic incident in 1996 when that crazy guy shot kids in school?

I wasn't in favour of the gun ban, but the car analogy is daft. You can't do much with a gun except fire it at a target. Cars have a utility and and that's why people accept the risks.

[AtW]

Cars have a utility and and that's why people accept the risks.

Guns can save your life and most importantly - they can let you live life without fear: being afraid of criminals is a very bad thing to have.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Guns can save your life and most importantly - they can let you live life without fear: being afraid of criminals is a very bad thing to have.

I live without fear of criminals and without needing a gun already.

[AtW]

I live without fear of criminals and without needing a gun already.

Fine, then you don't need to buy a gun, you can't however decide for others - some people don't need cars, so they can avoid associated risks.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Fine, then you don't need to buy a gun, you can't however decide for others - some people don't need cars, so they can avoid associated risks.

I said I was against the handgun ban - I don't mind people having licensed guns for sporting purposes. I am against my neighbourhood turning into the OK coral however, just because someone thinks they are Chuck Norris.

On the whole I think the balance is about right here - Tony Martin laid booby traps and lay in wait for intruders then shot them in the back - he was convicted of murder but it was reduced to manslaughter on appeal and he's out already - not bad for a guy who'd already had his firearms licence revoked for firing at people.

The last thing I want is the balance shifting in the US direction - certainly not the concealed weapons malarky.

Unfortunately the only way to find out would be to try it, and if I'm right, a lot more people will die while we find out.

[AtW]

The last thing I want is the balance shifting in the US direction - certainly not the concealed weapons malarky.

That's not the only direction - there are handguns on sales in France and Germany, and Switzerland, what's wrong in moving to that direction? Afterall UK had legal handguns only recently.