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    #31
    Originally posted by hyperD View Post
    No, after spending several decades employing these types, I can guarantee you that that the trades are saturated with work shy, scamming, lazy, greedy, thick, lying, deceitful, useless, poor customer service morons.
    Dont mix your words - tell us what you really think

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      #32
      Originally posted by AtW View Post

      You are quoting ridiculous damage figures and you don't even appreciate that this is exactly the point - the quotes that you got are RIP OFFS.
      Incorrectly installed cavity trays resulted in rain water entering the cavity causing the render and plaster to blow to the wall adjacent to the garage. This required hacking of the walls re-rendering and plastering. first the new fitted kitchen had to be removed to gain access to the walls, fitted carpets removed, electrics disconnected etc. then all had to be returned as was. the lead flashing to the garage roof had to be ripped out, the brickwork cut out in one meter sections to remove the cavity trays, new installed and re-bricked and pointed after re-installing new lead-work.

      The incorrectly installed lintel resulted in the front elevation of the stone building fracturing.
      The front elevation had to be jacked and shored before repairs could be carried out to the outer face-work, New lintels installed, new D/G Doors fitted, windows (6) removed and reset. internal floors taken up and reinstalled. ceilings repaired, inner walls (also cracked) repaired. and then the whole lot redecorated.

      Where's the rip off, two teams worked on two 10 hour shifts to get the work done quickly, so that the business could re-open.
      Confusion is a natural state of being

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        #33
        Originally posted by Diver View Post
        Where's the rip off, two teams worked on two 10 hour shifts to get the work done quickly, so that the business could re-open.
        I am sure they worked on 10 hour shifts because they got paid arm and a leg for it.

        Those bad foreign workers who do crap jobs will lose their jobs very quickly, unlike locals they can't afford a mistake and lets be clear here - there are plenty of cowboy construction workers in the UK who do very crap jobs.

        If hired any builder for any serious work I'd ask for written contracts which would clearly state that they would be responsible for any bad work and damages that follow - I'd look for insurance covering all this.

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          #34
          And this was done by immgrant ... or english workers?
          McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
          Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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            #35
            Originally posted by AtW View Post
            I am sure they worked on 10 hour shifts because they got paid arm and a leg for it.

            Those bad foreign workers who do carp jobs will lose their jobs very quickly, unlike locals they can't afford a mistake and lets be clear here - there are plenty of cowboy construction workers in the UK who do very carp jobs.

            If hired any builder for any serious work I'd ask for written contracts which would clearly state that they would be responsible for any bad work and damages that follow - I'd look for insurance covering all this.
            Exactly my point. the backstreet builders are the ones that are cheapest, use cheap unqualified labor and don't have insurance. their guarantee's are good right up until they are paid in full. They don't have to answer to the federation of master builders because they aren't members.
            Confusion is a natural state of being

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              #36
              Originally posted by Diver View Post
              They don't have to answer to the federation of master builders because they aren't members.
              Sounds like an illegal cartel to me just like Law Society.

              The matter of fact is that the price of building work is so high in the UK that people will take their chances. And it seems that in most cases they win rather than lose. Perhaps using Polish workers to deal with nuclear reactors is not a wise idea, but getting them to do patio might be a good gamble.

              In my locality I see plenty of houses being improved - most of workers doing hard stuff seem clearly foreign.

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