In memory of those who gave

[Sockpuppet]

Doesn't matter how "hi tech" wars get it will always fall back to some 18 year old with a rifle.

[TimberWolf]

Doesn't matter how "hi tech" wars get it will always fall back to some 18 year old with a rifle.

This guy's had his day then

[VectraMan]

Has anyone ever been killed or wounded by a computer?

I was recently. I walked into my spare room in the dark forgetting that there was a PC on the floor I was testing for somebody and kicked it. My foot hasn't stopped hurting since - I'm getting a bit worried about it.

[KentPhilip]

I don't think he was asking if a computer had killed anyone here.

No I was.

[VectraMan]

I don't really agree with this rememberance day lark as it goes too close to presenting war as a brave and noble thing. Let's not forget that those who "gave" their lives were largely conscripted, faced being shot if they deserted, and suffered the random bad luck of happening to be standing in the path of a bullet whereas the person next to them wasn't.

I'm sure there were heroes, but if you make everybody a hero by default, then that belittles the genuine ones.

[Moscow Mule]

I don't really agree with this rememberance day lark as it goes too close to presenting war as a brave and noble thing. Let's not forget that those who "gave" their lives were largely conscripted, faced being shot if they deserted, and suffered the random bad luck of happening to be standing in the path of a bullet whereas the person next to them wasn't.

I'm sure there were heroes, but if you make everybody a hero by default, then that belittles the genuine ones.

I think you're going to get a lot of abuse for this post.

I can't be arsed to explain why you are so, so wrong. But congratulations anyway, welcome to ignoresville. Population, you.

[WindyAnna]

I don't really agree with this rememberance day lark as it goes too close to presenting war as a brave and noble thing. Let's not forget that those who "gave" their lives were largely conscripted, faced being shot if they deserted, and suffered the random bad luck of happening to be standing in the path of a bullet whereas the person next to them wasn't.

I'm sure there were heroes, but if you make everybody a hero by default, then that belittles the genuine ones.

I would consider myself to be anti-war, however I really do believe that those who both lived and died through WWI and WWII were INCREDIBLY brave and I do appreciate their sacrifice.

To pass off what they did with a sentence like that is complete and utter tosh. I'm not sure where to begin to tell you why ...

[TimberWolf]

I disagree; the view was refreshingly undronelike. The only slightly niggle I might have is that it could perhaps be done in different thread. For my own part, I just let poppy day people get on with it. Much of my family are the same and we have quite a military background, including in the current wars.

[The Lone Gunman]

Please people, this is neither the time nor the place.

It is not a day to glorify war nor to make all the dead into heroes. It is a day to remember those who fell serving their country. It is all about peace. It is all about ending conflict.

There is a reason it is called armistice day.

We should all take time out to consider those who fell and why.

We must hope that one day there will be an end to war.

Lest we forget.

White Poppy crowd: Sod off! If you want a peace day then start one. Do not hijack this day.

[sasguru]

I don't really agree with this rememberance day lark as it goes too close to presenting war as a brave and noble thing. Let's not forget that those who "gave" their lives were largely conscripted, faced being shot if they deserted, and suffered the random bad luck of happening to be standing in the path of a bullet whereas the person next to them wasn't.

I'm sure there were heroes, but if you make everybody a hero by default, then that belittles the genuine ones.

War can be brave and noble if fought for the right reasons (at the basic level it's always bloody and grim). And the fact that people are conscripted at a time of grave national threat in no way diminishes their sacrifice.
Am hugely pissed off with your post. Why is there always one?