The French have done it!

[DS23]

can't do any harm can it?

[tay]

You whinge about sides not sending their strongest teams out for example, but that is all part of the jigsaw and the fun of the game.

I wasnt whinging about that, I was replying to the English newspaper article whinging about the AB's being rested for part fo the S14, I simply stated this normal in rugby nowdays. If you want to whinge about whinging, whinge about the silly article you posted.

[tay]

Yep, it looked a fair enough spear-tackle to me. I blamed O'Driscoll for getting his neck out of the way and breaking his shoulder instead.

You were biased though, so was I... luckily we had an independent commisioner to decide aye....

[The Lone Gunman]

You were biased though, so was I... luckily we had an independent commisioner to decide aye....

I think the point was clearly made that there is no such thing as independent where the New Zealand rugby team are concerned. The result of this enquiry kind of prooves that point.

[tay]

I think the point was clearly made that there is no such thing as independent where the New Zealand rugby team are concerned. The result of this enquiry kind of prooves that point.

You are truely deluded if you think a South African would any favours for NZ when it comes to rugby. I thought this board had semi intelligent people on it, but you just seem to belive ignorant bulltulip spouted by tabloid journalists.

It was not an enquiry, do you even know how the citing process works? I doubt it based on your silly comments so far.

Would you like to talk about poaching as well.. I am sure you believe all the lies about that as well.

[The Lone Gunman]

You are truely deluded if you think a South African would any favours for NZ when it comes to rugby. I thought this board had semi intelligent people on it, but you just seem to belive ignorant bulltulip spouted by tabloid journalists.

It was not an enquiry, do you even know how the citing process works? I doubt it based on your silly comments so far.

Would you like to talk about poaching as well.. I am sure you believe all the lies about that as well.

Maybe enquiry is the wrong word, but it does not change the facts. I dont live in the UK and dont read tabloids or any other papers. I do watch the rugby when I can. Often with some of the most well informed fans I have ever met. Try the Bok and Dragon in Brussels (you can tell from the name the nationality of the owners). Kiwis, Abbos, Saffers and Brits all watching as much of the lions tour as possible united in a love of rugby and not one, not one felt that THAT particular tackle and a couple of others were innocent, fair, sporting or had any place on a rugby pitch.

You are not the only fan and yours is not the only valid opinion. If you read the thread again you may possibly figure out that that is part of the problem with you Kiwis.


BTW I know the Bok and Dragon has changed hands and is not now owned by a Taffy and a Saffer.

[tay]

Maybe enquiry is the wrong word, but it does not change the facts. I dont live in the UK and dont read tabloids or any other papers. I do watch the rugby when I can. Often with some of the most well informed fans I have ever met. Try the Bok and Dragon in Brussels (you can tell from the name the nationality of the owners). Kiwis, Abbos, Saffers and Brits all watching as much of the lions tour as possible united in a love of rugby and not one, not one felt that THAT particular tackle and a couple of others were innocent, fair, sporting or had any place on a rugby pitch.

Oh excellent the 'all my friends agree with me' argument.. brilliant.

It wasnt a tackle.. farks sake did you even watch it?

You are not the only fan and yours is not the only valid opinion. If you read the thread again you may possibly figure out that that is part of the problem with you Kiwis.

I made it pretty clear I was biased.... did you even read my post? I am going by an independent citing officers decision and my opinion, you are going by your imaginary buddies and a whole pile of ignorance.. and you opinion.

[The Lone Gunman]

Oh excellent the 'all my friends agree with me' argument.. brilliant.

It wasnt a tackle.. farks sake did you even watch it?



I made it pretty clear I was biased.... did you even read my post? I am going by an independent citing officers decision and my opinion, you are going by your imaginary buddies and a whole pile of ignorance.. and you opinion.

Which bit did you not understand? Shall we try again slowly for the hard of thinking.
The Bok and Dragon is a superb rugby pub in Brussels, it is full of all nationalities and most of them are not friendly, particularly in rugby matters. They are all well informed and opinionated. Any bias is countered by other partisan opinions, but a consensus can usualy be found.
Try visiting the place when there is an important game on, like this weekend for instance. There will be a great atmosphere though most will be supporting France.
After the game start a discussion on the Lions tour and how NZ seem to get away with all sorts of stuff. Report back on what you find.

How many times. The point is that when it comes to NZ the whole world is blind.

How many times. The kiwis are so full of their own importance that they will not listen. They are right everybody else is wrong. Your stand point reflects this perfectly. You are not even willing to discus the possibility that you might be wrong.

How weak is your argument when you have to suggest I am delusional? My imaginary "friends" are quite real.

[Mailman]

Which bit did you not understand? Shall we try again slowly for the hard of thinking.
The Bok and Dragon is a superb rugby pub in Brussels, it is full of all nationalities and most of them are not friendly, particularly in rugby matters.

Ah, so you watched this with a pub full of pissed people!

Opps...there goes your arguement LG!

Mailman

[tay]

Which bit did you not understand? Shall we try again slowly for the hard of thinking.
The Bok and Dragon is a superb rugby pub in Brussels, it is full of all nationalities and most of them are not friendly, particularly in rugby matters. They are all well informed and opinionated. Any bias is countered by other partisan opinions, but a consensus can usualy be found.
Try visiting the place when there is an important game on, like this weekend for instance. There will be a great atmosphere though most will be supporting France.
After the game start a discussion on the Lions tour and how NZ seem to get away with all sorts of stuff. Report back on what you find.

I think your imaginary friendsa are full of tulipe... was the consensus that it was also done in a tackle situation.. because that is 100% wrog as well.. so your imaginary buddies clearly do not know thier ass from thier elbow when it comes to rugby. What are these other tackles you mention? Unless you just spouting tulipe again. You conveniantly miss the one individual who was found guilty and banned for 2 months for biting.. the Englishman Danny Grewcock. I repeat again... its not my opinion that we are debating... an INDEPENDENT commisioner decided these issues. You and you imaginary drinking buddies, might not agree with my opinion, fine. But when you think you know more than the experts who decided the matter... you are on thin ice. Specially when its clear from your posts you dont know much about rugby.

How many times. The point is that when it comes to NZ the whole world is blind.

The whole world... except the neutrals who decided the issue....

How many times. The kiwis are so full of their own importance that they will not listen. They are right everybody else is wrong. Your stand point reflects this perfectly. You are not even willing to discus the possibility that you might be wrong.

Now now.. I have stated TWICE now that I was biased about that incident. Hence why I put more store in the citing commisioner opinion.

My imaginary "friends" are quite real.

Keep telling yourself that buddy.