I promise

[sasguru]

Why not target any activity that brings adults into contact with kids.

There are now primary schools with no male teachers because of this subtle kind of tagging.

The Scouts and the Catholic church aims are good, they can't help a few and yes it is a few, devious creatures joining on false pretences to carry out their perverted fantasties.

OK OK I wish I hadn't made my flippant comment now. Although it did lead to Wobbegongs brilliant joke.

[Gibbon]

OK OK I wish I hadn't made my flippant comment now. Although it did lead to Wobbegongs brilliant joke.

Forgiven, and yes the joke was good Maybe I'm just a 'touchy' being a ex scout and lapsed catholic.

[chicane]

I'd go as far as saying that all the recent controls put in place supposedly to protect kids from adults have done more harm than good. It's reasonable to suggest that most British adults have no clue of how to interact or deal with kids other than their own, for fear of doing the wrong thing, leading to alienation between different generations and the resulting social problems we're experiencing.

This is in contrast to what I'm led to believe about much of mainland Europe, where kids are well integrated into the community and encouraged to mix with people from different generations to their own.

[The Lone Gunman]

I'd go as far as saying that all the recent controls put in place supposedly to protect kids from adults have done more harm than good. It's reasonable to suggest that most British adults have no clue of how to interact or deal with kids other than their own, for fear of doing the wrong thing, leading to alienation between different generations and the resulting social problems we're experiencing.

This is in contrast to what I'm led to believe about much of mainland Europe, where kids are well integrated into the community and encouraged to mix with people from different generations to their own.

Very disturbing. I had an experience that made me realise just how bad this has become and how careful you need to be.

I have a 14 year old niece. She is a goth. I was going to see a superb goth band localy and wanted to invite her along. Checked she could enter the bar with me and stuff.
It wasnt untill my wife pointed out that she would have to stay over and would be alone with me for the night (wife was away) that I realised I couldnt do it.

Why should I have to take that into consideration?

I am loath to babysit my grand children alone too fo rth esame reason.

[wobbegong]

Very disturbing. I had an experience that made me realise just how bad this has become and how careful you need to be.

I have a 14 year old niece. She is a goth. I was going to see a superb goth band localy and wanted to invite her along. Checked she could enter the bar with me and stuff.
It wasnt untill my wife pointed out that she would have to stay over and would be alone with me for the night (wife was away) that I realised I couldnt do it.

Why should I have to take that into consideration?

I am loath to babysit my grand children alone too fo rth esame reason.

TLG, I can completely sympathise.

I've encountered a similar situation in a supermarket; 3 (ish) yr old toddler, alone, obviously frightened, crying for her Mum, and looking increasingly panicky. I couldn't go up to her even to squat down and ask where her Mum was last seen, let alone take her by the hand to lead her to customer services. So I had to leave her, quickly try to find an employee, and ask them to take her to C.S. Imagine the situation if the Mother had seen me leading her "away" by the hand, even with honorable intentions.

Also, my daughter (then 15) was having a friend to sleep over, unexpectedly my wife had to out for the evening. Rather than cancel and mess up everybody's plans I asked my wife to phone the girls' parents and explain that it would be just me looking after the girls for the evening, and were they OK with that?

You have to be soooooo careful.