Sun Certification

[sunnysan]

No Google

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I think that all are passed in by value. Primitives are passed in by value and Objects are not passed in , only references to them which strictly speaking would be a value.
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Do I get the boot or the contract now?

[milanbenes]

all you need for coding is:

CTRL C

and

CTRL V

and keep _tweaking_ it until it does something like
what is being asked for

Milan.

[basshead]

I've got the programmer cert that I did last yr because I'd bought the exam voucher and had to use it up, but haven't so far gone for any more. Next time I'm working away I plan on doing web dev and architect certs to pass the time. Some places might be impressed but generally ppl are looking for experience in particular areas rather than a cert to say u know 'something about Java'.

I've never had an interview for a contracting role so never really been asked about it

(its not what u know, its who u know )

[WKnight]

An old argument

I don't know if it still stands up to close scrutiny (if it ever did) but this was my opinion a few years back...


Article about certification

[Cowboy Bob]

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I think that all are passed in by value. Primitives are passed in by value and Objects are not passed in , only references to them which strictly speaking would be a value.
</google_shield_on>

Do I get the boot or the contract now?

Yep. Everything in Java is passed by value. With objects you pass the pointer by value.

[swamp]

Do the SCJP.

It's a useful exam, it will look good on your CV, and it will help you pass technical tests.

I wouldn't bother with SCWCD or SCBCD etc. I've done them and they are just pointless memory exercises.

[bobhope]

Yep. Everything in Java is passed by value. With objects you pass the pointer by value.

For some reason, most people I interview think that the object itself (not the reference) is passed by value (i.e. they think they are then working on a copy of the object)

Come to think of it, quite a few devs don't even know the terms call by value, etc.

[Cowboy Bob]

For some reason, most people I interview think that the object itself (not the reference) is passed by value

In which case, ask them to explain how Collections.sort works.