Mutant Virus DOOM

[AtW]

It’s deadly as it is - more infectious is very bad as this will mean wider reach quicker, Tiers/shutdowns less effective\

Biggest question if vaccines are affected

Also, reason why we might have seen less mutations than common cold coronaviruses is due to shutdowns that so far limited spread, so less chances for mutations.

[Hobosapien]

“ Government scientists at the Porton Down laboratory in Wiltshire have been conducting experiments on the new strain, and have confirmed ministers' fears about it being far more infectious than the original strain of the virus.

One source in the scientific community said there were "concerns in government" about the new strain after the evidence was presented to ministers on Friday afternoon.

"The evidence that the new strain of the virus more easily transmits from one person to another has hardened up," said the source”

Exclusive: Alarming new evidence on coronavirus mutation could bring tougher restrictions

Bullshine. They're using it as a scapegoat for national restrictions that are still all about protecting the NHS.

An NHS that is barely fit for purpose in a normal winter. Years of mismanagement and waste and no-one with the balls to sort it out. That business fella went in thinking it would be simple, a few years ago now, and gave up after seeing the inept troughers running the show used to having billions of public money to waste.

How many of those nightingales are currently in use and full or near capacity? I expect the answer is closer to nil than all of them. There aren't the staff to run them, and any staff have to be taken from the nearby main hospitals, so no point having extra bed capacity without the extra staff capacity.

So instead of the government admitting this is the real weakness in the whole approach they'll just fear monger the dumb public into trashing their lives and mental health to save the NHS that will end up privatised anyway as part of the USA trade deal.

[AtW]

New, more infectious, strain can explain why London infections were going up during. Nov lockdown, despite higher immunity ratio there.

[BrilloPad]

New, more infectious, strain can explain why London infections were going up during. Nov lockdown, despite higher immunity ratio there.

In Birmingham there is a new virile strain - as deadly as ebola. As transferable as the common cold. It seems someone ate a raw squirel. When I saw raw I mean still alive. And when I say ate I mean went down on.

[ladymuck]

New, more infectious, strain can explain why London infections were going up during. Nov lockdown, despite higher immunity ratio there.

What's this higher immunity ratio of which you speak?

[AtW]

What's this higher immunity ratio of which you speak?

Higher percentage of people with anti-bodies (so those who had been infected before) in large metro areas from the first wave

[Hobosapien]

Higher percentage of people with anti-bodies (so those who had been infected before) in large metro areas from the first wave

No evidence yet that catching covid stops you catching it again so soon or ever.

[ladymuck]

Higher percentage of people with anti-bodies (so those who had been infected before) in large metro areas from the first wave

And it's been proven that the presence of antibodies = immunity?

[AtW]

And it's been proven that the presence of antibodies = immunity?

For the time being - yes, owing to lack of mass reports (almost zero really) of proven re-infections of those who had been infected before.

Unclear how long it will last though, but we are nearly a year inti this tulip now, so will know next year.

[AtW]

No evidence yet that catching covid stops you catching it again so soon or ever.

See above.