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    #21
    I'm going to take the job!!!! Cheers

    What's a good skill set these days? Looks like I'm going to have plenty of training opportunites available.
    MSCE or CCNA etc?

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      #22
      Originally posted by notescontractor
      What's a good skill set these days? Looks like I'm going to have plenty of training opportunites available.
      MSCE or CCNA etc?
      Fortran IV

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        #23
        Originally posted by wendigo100
        Fortran IV
        Basic
        I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.

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          #24
          cobol is making a comeback

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            #25
            Originally posted by Sockpuppet
            More than that. Have you ever rounded up 100 people and told them that on average they should earn £26k etc etc.

            I'd guess without city traders etc the average wage is more like £17k
            That's why it's best to look at median or modal incomes, mean incomes are skewed. 22k-24k is prob 'modal' earnings.
            I remember the good old days of this site when people used to moan about serious contractor related issues like house prices and immigration. How times have changed!?

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              #26
              Don't compare the perm offer with the current contract terms, you need to compare with the market. Your perm job probably = the current contract rate making it a very reasonable offer.
              Couple of things -
              - If they just want you to keep plugging away in your old job with vague offers of training, that would be a bad idea. Get firm offers of what training you will be given/where the role is going in the next 3 years.
              - CCNA still seems to be valid but forget MCSE, that just means you are a support g!mp = 15-18k/year.
              You need to find a different boat to jump on, management, dev etc but make sure it is going to be a runner in a few years (if you can !) notes isn't.
              Another option - ask for 50k, they know what you are currently on which doesn't make the request ridiculous. DONT fall for the 'we will review the salary in 3/6 months time' line, it's b*ll*cks.
              HTH

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                #27
                Originally posted by lukemg
                - CCNA still seems to be valid but forget MCSE, that just means you are a support g!mp = 15-18k/year.
                Oi! As a bad permy maybe but I make more than 3x that with an 'introduction to IT' type course as my only training, its all about experience and your ability to find a good gig.
                Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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