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May agrees to referendum - Reunification of Ireland

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    #31
    Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
    What's up having a problem digesting the facts? Rejection of the Lisbon treaty would have triggered A50. The EU bribed the Irish to stay, and they had a second referendum. Sound familiar? Remember some of us have not wanted to be members for over 40 years, so a little bedwetting now from the hard of thinking is a small price to pay.
    Brexiteer facts are great. Article 50 was only enacted by the Lisbon Treaty in December 2009. So show us the evidence that 'Rejection of the Lisbon treaty would have triggered A50'.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
      How do you think that's going to happen?
      An independent Scotland won't have Nuclear Weapons. If rUK wants them then they need to find somewhere else to keep them.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Batcher View Post
        All the promises in 2014 have not been kept so it's only right we look at Independence again.

        One of the biggest lies was that oil was running out and would be finished within 5 years. This is before we can drill at the west coast which we can't do at the moment because of the nuclear subs. Once we get rid of them then we're good to go.

        Oil flows from BP Clair Ridge development off Shetland - BBC News

        Oil from BP's major Clair Ridge development which is expected to produce for the next four decades - has begun to flow.

        Scottish Independence: England's Shameful Secret

        http://www.oilofscotland.org/mccronereport.pdf
        The tricky thing now for an independent Scotland within the EU (if that is the goal) is the hard border with England.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
          The tricky thing now for an independent Scotland within the EU (if that is the goal) is the hard border with England.
          If only Hadrian were still alive.

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            #35
            Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
            If only Hadrian were still alive.
            Or Offa and his Dyke! What was her name again?
            Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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              #36
              Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
              If only Hadrian were still alive.
              Probably a bit too gay for the CUK gammon community.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                The tricky thing now for an independent Scotland within the EU (if that is the goal) is the hard border with England.
                We don't need one. The UK Government have said there would be no need for a hard border in Ireland. They would use their super-duper technology instead so they same would apply to England and Scotland's border

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
                  If only Hadrian were still alive.
                  Are you giving us half of Cumbria and Northumberland? Cheers

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
                    Wrong again

                    Who gets to decide whether and when to hold a border poll?
                    The UK Government has the power to call a referendum in Northern Ireland.

                    The Good Friday Agreement states that "the Secretary of State" should call a referendum "‘if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland."

                    The Secretary of State would do this by laying before Parliament an Order in Council, specifying the details of the poll and the date on which it will be held.

                    In the Republic of Ireland, reunification would require a constitutional amendment. This would require legislation to be passed by both chambers of Parliament, before it was put to the people in a referendum.

                    In the event that either part of Ireland voted against reunification, another poll cannot be held within seven years.


                    Irish reunification | The Institute for Government
                    A border poll can be held at any time – Slugger O'Toole

                    Semantics possibly, but the Scottish government have nothing on this level. Even the SNP manifesto stated it wanted the power to hold a referendum.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Batcher View Post
                      All the promises in 2014 have not been kept so it's only right we look at Independence again.

                      One of the biggest lies was that oil was running out and would be finished within 5 years. This is before we can drill at the west coast which we can't do at the moment because of the nuclear subs. Once we get rid of them then we're good to go.

                      Oil flows from BP Clair Ridge development off Shetland - BBC News

                      Oil from BP's major Clair Ridge development which is expected to produce for the next four decades - has begun to flow.

                      Scottish Independence: England's Shameful Secret

                      http://www.oilofscotland.org/mccronereport.pdf
                      The average swing voter views these conspiracy theories for what they are, ramblings of people who are beyond help.

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