heheeee

[expat]

What I read (Daily Telegraph in the pub I think), said he'd gone beyond that and saying any adult having sex with a minor over the age of 13 shouldn't be classified as a paedophile either as the definition of paedophile is somebody physically attracted to children, and girls in particular of 14/15 are more or less physically mature.

It should be illegal, but it's a different crime.

Spot-on.

I'd say there are 3 crimes, because each actually is a different thing:
1. older kid goes with younger kid. He's wrong, maybe even criminal, but let's keep it in proportion: he's not a dangerous evil man out after children, he's about the same age himself.
2. Man has sex with under-age girl who is physically mature. That's a crime. But, depending on the case, it might not be among the most heinous crimes a man can commit. He might be a misguided man who wants a relationship with a woman, just picks one that he shouldn't. It's against the law because she is not considered old enough to consent; but he wanted it to be consensual and non-criminal. He has failed in a very important duty of care, but he has not committed an attack on a minor.
3. Man has sex, if you can call it that, with a child. It's got to be a child, that's what he wants. Consent doesn't come into it, abuse of power is central. Now that is nasty, and one of the worst crimes a man can commit. Let's keep it separate and not confuse it with any grey areas.

I don't see the main point of this as advocating relations with minors, rather as keeping it clear that real paedophilia, in the form of attacks by force, is seriously evil.

PS just writing this has made me think, and I'm not sure I agree 100% with what I wrote

[wonderwaif]

What's really weird is that of two 14 year olds, it's the boy that gets put on the sex offenders register...

Good point Zeity.
Chico will confirm that it was Eve that tempted Adam.....

[expat]

What's really weird is that of two 14 year olds, it's the boy that gets put on the sex offenders register...

Is that true? Has she not also committed a crime?

[SallyAnne]

Is that true? Has she not also committed a crime?

Nope - only the lad gets charged.

It's a stupid out dated law.

Peado's come undera completely different category.

[Paddy]

Nope - only the lad gets charged.

It's a stupid out dated law.

Peado's come undera completely different category.

The son of ex-colleague and friend had a 16 year old son who befriended the next-door neighbour’s 15 year old daughter. The next door family were always in trouble with the law. It came out that the son had tried to have coessential sex with the daughter during heavy petting. The neighbour went to the police and the boy was prosecuted. He was seventeen and a half by the time it came to court. The judge was very sensible and commented that the girl was “not exactly a virgin angel” . The son was let off with a suspended sentance. As luck would have, a local newspaper reporter was their and took the comments out of context. In the newspapers, attempted sex on a minor was relabelled child rape. Media pressure ended with a review of the sentence six moths latter. By now he was eighteen. The press had suggested a prison sentence and the appeal judge gave him six months. He had no previous convictions and he was in his first year of university.

[SallyAnne]

The son of ex-colleague and friend had a 16 year old son who befriended the next-door neighbour’s 15 year old daughter. The next door family were always in trouble with the law. It came out that the son had tried to have coessential sex with the daughter during heavy petting. The neighbour went to the police and the boy was prosecuted. He was seventeen and a half by the time it came to court. The judge was very sensible and commented that the girl was “not exactly a virgin angel” . The son was let off with a suspended sentance. As luck would have, a local newspaper reporter was their and took the comments out of context. In the newspapers, attempted sex on a minor was relabelled child rape. Media pressure ended with a review of the sentence six moths latter. By now he was eighteen. The press had suggested a prison sentence and the appeal judge gave him six months. He had no previous convictions and he was in his first year of university.

Thats utterly shocking - a complete disgrace and probably ruined that lads life.

The story was made more light hearted by the use of the phrase "heavy petting" though Did anyone else snigger at that?