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    #21
    Originally posted by AtW
    The burden of proof is on the claimant, ie you: either prove it or STFU you liar.
    For what lie are you accussing me of?
    Sola gratia

    Sola fide

    Soli Deo gloria

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      #22
      Originally posted by Chico
      For what lie are you accussing me of?
      Unless you prove your laughable claims you are a liar - now go prove that God killed that guy, or anyone else for that matter: to the criminal standard - beyond reasonable doubt, go on give it a go, liar!

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        #23
        Heaven's justice again presents a problem. Onan dies at the hands of God supposedly because he is disloyal to his dead brother, Er, for refusing to give Tamar conception. By any assessment, however, a penalty of death for such an offence is wholly inappropriate. The penalty, in fact, has been determined by the storyteller's aim to make Judah pay in kind, loss of a son, for causing the loss of Joseph.25) 18
        In his levirate rule the Deuteronomic lawgiver took up from the story of Tamar the problem of a man like Onan who refuses to impregnate his dead brother's widow and raise a male child to him (Deut. 25.5-10).26) Opposed no doubt to the extreme punishment he found in the legend, the lawgiver sought instead to devise a more apt penalty for an offence like Onan's. In working out a sanction the lawgiver has the widow play a remarkable role. She publicly disgraces her brother-in-law by likening him to Onan. This is the meaning of the ceremony whereby she removes his shoe from his foot and spits in his face. The removal symbolizes withdrawal from intercourse--similar to Onan's withdrawal from Tamar--and the spitting symolizes the emission of seed--similar to Onan's action with his seed. It is the only rule in the Bible where the sanction consists of public disgrace.
        Churchill - In "Chico cut and pasting of tulipe" mode!

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          #24
          *Gets the popcorn out*
          Me, me, me...

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            #25
            So Spod did God kill him or not? A Yes or a NO will suffice.
            Sola gratia

            Sola fide

            Soli Deo gloria

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              #26
              Chico, have you ever had sex?
              The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

              But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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                #27
                Originally posted by Chico
                So Spod did God kill him or not? A Yes or a NO will suffice.
                No, He didn't. It is merely an allegorical tale.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Churchill
                  No, He didn't. It is merely an allegorical tale.
                  Wrong answer. If Genesis is allegorical then whats the point? It would make no sense. However if it is literal truth then you better start repenting because you are going to be held to account for the way you have lived you life. Anyway back to to the Onan and Er situation. Out of interest which of the sons of Jacob's would the eventual Messiah be descended from?
                  Sola gratia

                  Sola fide

                  Soli Deo gloria

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                    #29
                    Who gives a sh!t?

                    He'd be dead by now anyway.
                    Hang on - there is actually a place called Cheddar?? - cailin maith

                    Any forum is a collection of assorted weirdos, cranks and pervs - Board Game Geek

                    That will be a simply fab time to catch up for a beer. - Tay

                    Have you ever seen somebody lick the chutney spoon in an Indian Restaurant and put it back ? - Cyberghoul

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Chico
                      Wrong answer. If Genesis is allegorical then whats the point? It would make no sense. However if it is literal truth then you better start repenting because you are going to be held to account for the way you have lived you life. Anyway back to to the Onan and Er situation. Out of interest which of the sons of Jacob's would the eventual Messiah be descended from?
                      I thought Kirk exploded Genesis, bringing Spock back to life?
                      The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                      But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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