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    #11
    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    Most of it. It was the subliminal scare approach. Didnt include pestilence though, a definite positive.
    No mention of collapsing house prices. Project Fear fail.

    With less than a month to go before the British have the bloody cheek to leave the glorious EU shouldn't the financial markets be in turmoil?

    Last month . £ gently rising against the euro.
    BBC NEWS | Business | Market Data | Currencies | Sterling GBP v Euro EUR

    One month tracker. FTSE 100. Ticking over.
    BBC NEWS | Business | Market Data | Stock Markets | London Stock Exchange LSE | FTSE 100 UKX

    Its like no one in the City really cares. Maybe because they know the Remainers are exaggerating just a little?

    Last edited by Flashman; 31 May 2016, 13:39.

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      #12
      Originally posted by GB9 View Post
      Well, the article was written from the point of view that no one can survive outside Europe, so heaven help anyone who tries.

      How about this next scenario, equally daft:

      "Hello Vladimir. It's cousin Boris here. Yes, strange I have a Russian name too! Anyway, now we are both outside Europe I've an idea to bounce off you. Apart from the French, we're the only ones with nuclear weapons. So how about splitting Europe down the middle, just like the good old days. And as a goodwill gesture, how about we split Germany down the middle and have half each.".

      I imagine the way this reads to a Remainer will be similar to how that article read to an outer. Plain stupid.
      Though strangely you've still failed to address anything in the article.

      It seems to me an entirely reasonable prediction of how the remaining members of the EU will react, and the likely political fall out (like Boris becoming PM that you presumably want). Or do you genuinely believe that the rest of the EU love the British so much they'll instantly give us everything we want without requiring anything in return?
      Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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        #13
        Originally posted by dx4100 View Post
        I guess the out campaign just aren't going to accept anything... blinkered....
        I think the problem stems from who is sending the message...

        Its so bad its almost like they want to provoke an exit. It started with blatantly biased wording of the question on the ballot paper and then got worse from there...

        Why anyone in government thinks that bastards like Goldman Sachs are a shining beacon of light for the average man on the street is a mystery. But still out they come with authority after authority beating the drum that we will be ****ed if we leave. The scary thing is that a majority of people I have spoken to are saying well if it makes a mess of them, then I am in for a punt.

        The best or worst part is that the Plutocraps have demonstrated that they will get what ever they want regardless of who is in power so its almost a safe bet for anyone that wants to give the UK government a kick, because they know that all the vested interests in the UK will be damned if they let the UK fall off the cliff holding their laundered money.

        So what ever the EU wants to do we will get air cover from a far more powerful elite.

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          #14
          Originally posted by GB9 View Post
          Well, the article was written from the point of view that no one can survive outside Europe, so heaven help anyone who tries.
          How many people do you need to tell you this may well be the reality until you actually get it though ?

          We will "survive" but survive is probably going to look a lot tulipter than you would of hoped....

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            #15
            Originally posted by dx4100 View Post
            How many people do you need to tell you this may well be the reality until you actually get it though ?

            We will "survive" but survive is probably going to look a lot tulipter than you would of hoped....
            The only country to have had less growth than the Euro group of countries within the EU over the past decade is the ANTARCTIC

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              #16
              Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
              Though strangely you've still failed to address anything in the article.

              It seems to me an entirely reasonable prediction of how the remaining members of the EU will react, and the likely political fall out (like Boris becoming PM that you presumably want). Or do you genuinely believe that the rest of the EU love the British so much they'll instantly give us everything we want without requiring anything in return?
              So you think the UK will be punished by the EU if we leave?
              Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                #17
                Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                Though strangely you've still failed to address anything in the article.

                It seems to me an entirely reasonable prediction of how the remaining members of the EU will react, and the likely political fall out (like Boris becoming PM that you presumably want). Or do you genuinely believe that the rest of the EU love the British so much they'll instantly give us everything we want without requiring anything in return?
                I wasn't trying to address anything specific in the article, just raise the point that it was written by someone who obviously has rose coloured EU spectacles.

                There is a point in there about the German and French voters seeing how bad it is for Britain and voting for their equivalent Remain parties. Presumption by the writer that it will be bad. Alternative scenario: French and German voters think 'we want the same' and provide a different result.

                The other main assumption is that if we leave, (and I see it as unlikely), the rest of the EU act like spoilt children and take their collective bats home. It certainly isn't in the German's interest to do so and I can't see why they would.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by GB9 View Post
                  The other main assumption is that if we leave, (and I see it as unlikely), the rest of the EU act like spoilt children and take their collective bats home. It certainly isn't in the German's interest to do so and I can't see why they would.
                  That's hardly rose colour spectacles. That's painting the EU in a bad light.

                  Germany may consider their best interest are served by holding the rest of the EU together and choosing a harsh line on the UK. More importantly there are 26 other countries who get a vote on any UK-EU trade deal all of which will see an opportunity to put their own self-interest first. And why shouldn't they? It's the UK that's walking away; nobody has to do us any favours.

                  Some of the conclusions in the article are a little one sided I grant you, but what do we know from the Out campaign? They have no idea how any of this will go. Govey rubbished suggestions that the 2-year exit will be triggered any time soon, so clearly the Out campaign are in agreement with these dire predictions.

                  Part of me wants to see it happen just for comedy value. But unfortunately I live here, and post-Brexit it'll be harder to leave. Thanks for that.
                  Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post

                    Part of me wants to see it happen just for comedy value. But unfortunately I live here, and post-Brexit it'll be harder to leave. Thanks for that.
                    When Merkel is faced with her own car workers losing jobs because the EU chooses not to agree a trade deal wirh us then something will be done pdq.

                    And I'm voting as someone who wants to live in this country.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                      Part of me wants to see it happen just for comedy value. But unfortunately I live here, and post-Brexit it'll be harder to leave. Thanks for that.
                      Depends where you want to go and more importantly if you are wanting to come back. But seems to be plenty of work in Asia and the usual Saudi type places.

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