Old Thickos versus Young Educated

[scooterscot]

They are also missing the minor detail that in the 70s we voted to join a free trade association, not an unrepresentative Federated European bureaucracy with three unelected presidents.

It's not the old ones that are misguided.

Ahhh but back then we had something to trade. It was the old ones that destroyed out manufacturing industry with constant strikes and poor manufacturing quality.

[DimPrawn]

Ahhh but back then we had something to trade. It was the old ones that destroyed out manufacturing industry with constant strikes and poor manufacturing quality.

We are at the forefront of electric vehicle technology.

EV3

[bobspud]

Perhaps for you, not for me.

Im guessing you don't bill your clients in UK£ or run your renumeration through a UK Ltd entity while working in the EU? To me there should be no difference between my UK limited company sending a consultant to France for a month or HP doing the same. In reality my company will get screwed up the wazzoo while HP can do what it wants. so much for no barriers for trade...

If the EU was working it should be fine for a UK company to offer services in Spain, Germany, France etc and then bill the services less the VAT its then down to the UK company to pay tax and handle compliance. Instead what happens is my little UK business gets swamped in employment bollocks and landed with un-necessary costs while HP or IBM just send whoever the hell they like and no-one bats an eyelid.

[unemployed]

It's subtle BBC propaganda, insinuating that remainers are hip and trendy and sophisticated, and Brexiters are old fuddy duddies.

Actually it's the opposite: Brexiters are bold and adventurous, while remainers are timid conformists stuck in a 1950s timewarp where megastates were the in thing to strive for, like giant tower blocks.

indeed

and all that lot care about is the price of their house. Must not drop the precise amount of 18%

[Mordac]

Just because they hand out degrees with cornflakes nowadays doesn't mean the old uns are stupid.

No, but the fact that the young ones don't realise they are being gangbanged to the tune of an average £30k+ debt for the privilege tells you where the real ignorance lies...

[SueEllen]

Im guessing you don't bill your clients in UK£ or run your renumeration through a UK Ltd entity while working in the EU? To me there should be no difference between my UK limited company sending a consultant to France for a month or HP doing the same. In reality my company will get screwed up the wazzoo while HP can do what it wants. so much for no barriers for trade...

If the EU was working it should be fine for a UK company to offer services in Spain, Germany, France etc and then bill the services less the VAT its then down to the UK company to pay tax and handle compliance. Instead what happens is my little UK business gets swamped in employment bollocks and landed with un-necessary costs while HP or IBM just send whoever the hell they like and no-one bats an eyelid.

It doesn't actually work like that. If you worked in another European country or two you would soon learn that.

The likes of the large companies you mentioned have offices in the country, and if the tax and/or employment laws demand it comply.

You are basically blaming the UK government for being tulip by having a complex tax code with loads of loop holes which large companies exploit, on the EU.

[Old Greg]

We are at the forefront of electric vehicle technology.

FTFY

[scooterscot]

We are at the forefront of electric vehicle technology.

EV3

[scooterscot]

No, but the fact that the young ones don't realise they are being gangbanged to the tune of an average £30k+ debt for the privilege tells you where the real ignorance lies...

+1

Why the young ones back home don't flock to EU universities for free education is nothing more than a lack of knowledge. I remember the UCAS form filling days. Studying abroad doesn't come into it. The number of US students here in Munich alone has jumped a fair few since the time I've been here. None knew more than 50% of courses were taught in English let alone knew they were paid for by the state. So much win.

[scooterscot]

It doesn't actually work like that. If you worked in another European country or two you would soon learn that.

The likes of the large companies you mentioned have offices in the country, and if the tax and/or employment laws demand it comply.

You are basically blaming the UK government for being tulip by having a complex tax code with loads of loop holes which large companies exploit, on the EU.

Somewhat ironic. I had a UK client which I won over local talent because I din't have to charge VAT.

Long live 'cash accounting', works in most EU countries expect for, guess which...