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Could the Irish vote swing it for Remain?

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    #11
    Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    Cobblers. The UK and RoI have a common travel area long pre-dating the EU:

    UK-RoI CTA

    And, as I mentioned, the DUP is for Brexit.
    I agree that passport controls won't be introduced. But there may be customs controls.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
      I agree that passport controls won't be introduced. But there may be customs controls.
      You could well be correct. Perhaps they'll just smuggle it like they do red diesel and ciggies.

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        #13
        Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
        Telegraph had an article saying that everyone should vote remain, otherwise the wealthy would see their property portfolios lose money, in the article it had an online vote for the readers, in or out.

        75% out.

        They removed comments too

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          #14
          Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
          Cobblers. The UK and RoI have a common travel area long pre-dating the EU:

          UK-RoI CTA

          And, as I mentioned, the DUP is for Brexit.
          So are you saying there have never been any border controls of any sort between Eire and NI since the partition?

          Customs controls were introduced on the frontier on 1 April 1923, shortly after the establishment of the Irish Free State. These controls were maintained, with varying degrees of severity, until 1 January 1993, when systematic customs checks were abolished between European Community member states as part of the single market

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            #15
            Originally posted by stek View Post
            So are you saying there have never been any border controls of any sort between Eire and NI since the partition?
            Save for those small ones set-up by the army.

            I can't see why it should go back to the bad old days, if that's what you're asking.

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              #16
              Originally posted by stek View Post
              So are you saying there have never been any border controls of any sort between Eire and NI since the partition?
              Customs control were for movement of goods. The CTA allows free movement of people. The former may be imposed on Brexit but the latter would probably remain. My main concern is whether it would affect my shopping trip to Sainsbury's in Newry when 1/3 off prosecco coincides with 25% off 6 bottles of wine.

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                #17
                Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                Telegraph had an article saying that everyone should vote remain, otherwise the wealthy would see their property portfolios lose money, in the article it had an online vote for the readers, in or out.

                75% out.


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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                  Customs control were for movement of goods. The CTA allows free movement of people. The former may be imposed on Brexit but the latter would probably remain. My main concern is whether it would affect my shopping trip to Sainsbury's in Newry when 1/3 off prosecco coincides with 25% off 6 bottles of wine.
                  Sometime in the late 70's I remember a trip by coach from Belfast to Buncrana, and the bus being extensively searched on the border by what must have been British Army, but my mind says proper border guards, can't have been looking for arms, wrong way...

                  Bring back the Londonderry and Lough Swilly Railway, think they ran the buses and coaches after the railway was pulled up. Bleak as fook up in West Donegal isolated.com.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by stek View Post
                    Bring back the Londonderry and Lough Swilly Railway, think they ran the buses and coaches after the railway was pulled up. Bleak as fook up in West Donegal isolated.com.
                    The bank where the railway line used to be now forms the stop bank at the bottom of my brother-in-law's place just down from the Railway Tavern in Fahan. Lovely place, but they're all a little bit "Father Ted" down there.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by stek View Post
                      So are you saying there have never been any border controls of any sort between Eire and NI since the partition?
                      Well from the link that was provided there is still some form of border control:

                      Since 1997, the Irish government has imposed systematic identity checks on air passengers coming from the United Kingdom and selective checks on sea passengers, and occasional checks on land crossings.
                      ...
                      As far as the land border is concerned, the UK Border Agency indicated that the border would be "lightly controlled...
                      Also note:

                      In common with its unpublished predecessors the 2011 agreement is an unbinding agreement, with its eighth clause stating that the agreement "is not intended to create legally binding obligations, nor to create or confer any right, privilege or benefit on any person or party, private or public"
                      So either party can really do what they want...
                      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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