Seven risks of voting to remain

[DodgyAgent]

I think you need to go learn what democratic mandate means and update your thinking

I will give you a hint. Democracy isn't always about YOU getting everything YOU want g

I noticed you ducked answering my question on how immigration has directly ruined your life

I was in A&E in Chelsea before christmas with a friends son who had injured himself playing hockey and the queue was stuffed with eastern Europeans
I cannot get my 4 year old child into a school in Banstead at the moment - "off the record" we are oversubscribed with many eastern EU migrant children. The same school employs two Polish teachers to give extra english tuition. And the local big issue distribution is dominated by Romanians and whilst this has no direct effect on me there is a cost just like everything else of supporting people we do not choose to allow in to the UK.

[dx4100]

It is increasingly ruining a lot of young people's lives, by maintaining and increasing crazy house prices. Ask PurpleGorilla.

So the UK failure to build more houses over decades is being blamed on immigrants wanting to take up jobs here.

You see the break down in thinking on where the problem lies ?

So a UK failure is blamed on the EU and the cycle continues.

[dx4100]

I was in A&E in Chelsea before christmas with a friends son who had injured himself playing hockey and the queue was stuffed with eastern Europeans
I cannot get my 4 year old child into a school in Banstead at the moment - "off the record" we are oversubscribed with many eastern EU migrant children. The same school employs two Polish teachers to give extra english tuition. And the local big issue distribution is dominated by Romanians and whilst this has no direct effect on me there is a cost just like everything else of supporting people we do not choose to allow in to the UK.

My friends son

Off the record

No direct effect

All these immigrants coming here blah blah blah, but when you ask how its affecting YOU, you get a lot of waffle and unverifiable rhetoric.

[OwlHoot]

So the UK failure to build more houses over decades is being blamed on immigrants wanting to take up jobs here.

You see the break down in thinking on where the problem lies ?

So a UK failure is blamed on the EU and the cycle continues.

The reason for the "failure" is immaterial, if failure it even is after literally millions of dwellings _have_ been built "over decades" and it would be rather nice to have some countryside and agricultural industry left in this country.

The fact remains that continuing to allow unrestricted immigration, which staying in the EU clearly will do, is making the problem far worse (as well is continuing to decrease wages and job insecurity, among other problems).

I'm afraid you are the one suffering a breakdown in rational thinking here.

[diseasex]

The reason for the "failure" is immaterial, if failure it even is after literally millions of dwellings _have_ been built "over decades" and it would be rather nice to have some countryside and agricultural industry left in this country.

The fact remains that continuing to allow unrestricted immigration, which staying in the EU clearly will do, is making the problem far worse (as well is continuing to decrease wages and job insecurity, among other problems).

I'm afraid you are the one suffering a breakdown in rational thinking here.

I think the worst is long gone now. And if immigrants can't get a job or benefits they go back to their country in 90% of cases
You are kind of victim of your own success. Immigrant can come to London and get a job the next day. And you, mostly owners, can only benefit from cheap workforce.
The thickos will always complain and look for easy victims though

[dx4100]

The reason for the "failure" is immaterial, if failure it even is after literally millions of dwellings _have_ been built "over decades" and it would be rather nice to have some countryside and agricultural industry left in this country.

The fact remains that continuing to allow unrestricted immigration, which staying in the EU clearly will do, is making the problem far worse (as well is continuing to decrease wages and job insecurity, among other problems).

I'm afraid you are the one suffering a breakdown in rational thinking here.

So your plan for the UK is less jobs, less people and more sheep.

And at the same time you claim a EU exit is going to be positive for our economy

My thinking is immigrants come here for jobs, jobs being created in an economy that works. Its an utter failure of successive UK governments over decades not to build enough houses to accommodate the workers needed for the jobs being created and that makes life hard on the ones not on the property ladder.

You want to paint that as a problem made in the EU when the UK is clearly at fault. I would say this highlights why people like you are very much a problem to the future success of this country.

You want to keep the nice view outside of your cottage at the expense of the future life chances of my, and even your own, children. I say to that.

[diseasex]

So your plan for the UK is less jobs, less people and more sheep.

And at the same time you claim a EU exit is going to be positive for our economy

My thinking is immigrants come here for jobs, jobs being created in an economy that works. Its an utter failure of successive UK governments over decades not to build enough houses to accommodate the workers needed for the jobs being created and that makes life hard on the ones not on the property ladder.

You want to paint that as a problem. I would say this highlights why people like you are very much a problem to the future success of this country.

You want to keep the nice view outside of your cottage at the expense of the future life chances of my, and even your own, children. I say to that.

Well said,
I feel that vote NO comes mostly out of greed - to keep what units already have, not necessarely to benefit of the society.
They want a cake for themself whereas they could have a larger pie as a society
They want to have shorter queue to free NHS, they want to send their mediocre kid to the best school etc

[jbond007]

I was in A&E in Chelsea before christmas with a friends son who had injured himself playing hockey and the queue was stuffed with eastern Europeans
I cannot get my 4 year old child into a school in Banstead at the moment - "off the record" we are oversubscribed with many eastern EU migrant children. The same school employs two Polish teachers to give extra english tuition. And the local big issue distribution is dominated by Romanians and whilst this has no direct effect on me there is a cost just like everything else of supporting people we do not choose to allow in to the UK.

With your margins and contractor placements, would have thought it was private school all the way

[dx4100]

With your margins and contractor placements, would have thought it was private school all the way

We are meant to believe the average contractor is fighting for school places with droves of poor eastern European immigrants

[OwlHoot]

I feel that vote NO comes mostly out of greed - to keep what units already have, not necessarely to benefit of the society.

They want a cake for themself whereas they could have a larger pie as a society

They want to have shorter queue to free NHS, they want to send their mediocre kid to the best school etc

Ah bless - One of those starry eyed virtue signalling idealists who profess to care more about the whole wide World than their own country (if the UK even is your country, which I doubt).

What, pray, is wrong with wanting to send your mediocre kid to the best school, instead of some place completely dumbed down to suit the needs of immigrants who can barely speak English (as many schools in the UK already are) ?

I suspect dx4100 may side with me on that, as he seems to want the best for his kids.