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George Osborne is toying with the idea of removing a further £30bn in middle-class..

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    #21
    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    Throbbing servers, inflatable dolls and pet squirrels do not utopia bring.

    Atw has two of those covered with his inflatable squirrel. He likes to take it round the back.

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      #22
      Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
      I have lots of friends.
      Now you know he's taking the piss
      How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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        #23
        Originally posted by AtW View Post
        Then three things happened!
        You missed out the Gordon Brown raid on pension funds, when he removed the ability of pension funds to reclaim the tax credit (then 25% of the gross dividend), worth £5 billion in 1998, approx. £10-12 billion per annum today.

        The fact is that the deficit is not really budging, it is mostly the wealthy who gain from the pension tax relief, I would prefer to see an ISA type of pension saving, whereby the contributions come from taxed income but the pension income is tax free when you withdraw it.

        The risk from this is that a future government might be tempted to tax the income from a pension ISA in the future.
        "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero

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          #24
          George Osborne is toying with the idea of removing a further £30bn in middle-...

          Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
          I am a lifelong Tory voter and certainly will not vote Tory next time.
          Well who else can you vote for?

          These tax rises are disappointing, especially from a Tory government but we have not seen any cuts to the overall government spending and the budget has to be balanced somehow. The British public have no idea about what we spend, have no appetite for cuts and ANY government that is serious about sorting out our finances would be going something pretty similar.

          The alternative is to follow the failed socialist experiments we have seen in Venezuela, Argentina etc.

          Total Government spending in 2009-10 was £674 billion, in 2015-16 it is projected to be £756 billion, an increase of £82 billion! So when you hear of cuts you know the reality.
          Last edited by Waldorf; 2 January 2016, 00:38.
          "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero

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            #25
            Originally posted by Troll View Post
            Now you know he's taking the piss
            As usual.......glacially slow on the uptake.
            “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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              #26
              Originally posted by Waldorf View Post
              These tax rises are disappointing, especially from a Tory government but we have not seen any cuts to the overall government spending and the budget has to be balanced somehow.
              So, Tories come to power on the basis of cutting overall Govt spending, but they actually end up taxing heavily their core voters???



              Osborne is doing all the sneaky things that Labour is supposed to be doing... that's NOT what's supposedly should be expected from Tory Govt! And this time they can't blame Liberals, ffs - it turns out last Govt was fooking awesome, and before that even better! Hell, Balls would have been better for Tory voters too.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Troll View Post
                Now you know he's taking the piss
                Aye.

                I've got lots of friends.

                CUK friends.

                The best friends, right?


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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Waldorf View Post
                  Total Government spending in 2009-10 was £674 billion, in 2015-16 it is projected to be £756 billion, an increase of £82 billion! So when you hear of cuts you know the reality.
                  Oh ffs, but this means there are NO fooking cuts!!! Tories did not DO THE CUTS THEY PROMISED!

                  Instead they are taxing their core voters to bribe Labour voters in a vain hope that it would get Osborne elected in 2020... WRONG!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Waldorf View Post
                    Well who else can you vote for?
                    Korbyn.

                    This will ensure that he taxes Osborne's rich mates very heavily, just like they should be taxed - maybe next time they'll think twice before taxing too heavily their core middle class vote.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      Korbyn.

                      This will ensure that he taxes Osborne's rich mates very heavily, just like they should be taxed - maybe next time they'll think twice before taxing too heavily their core middle class vote.
                      Not sure the significance of spelling his name with a K?

                      However, luckily there are not enough foolish people who will vote for this fool. Anyone who does is deluded.
                      "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero

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