Crackdown on personal service companies could raise £400m in tax

[Tasslehoff]

Why not just bring it in line with the T&S restriction of 2 years then scrap T&S?

I could live with this.

[BrilloPad]

I can't see what the government would gain by these 'proposals'

They hate us and want to destroy us. We are only glorified typists.

[MicrosoftBob]

They hate us and want to destroy us. We are only glorified typists.

Speak for yourself, I haven't got the legs to be a typist

[EternalOptimist]

So who is better at changing society in order to maximise the tax take

Labour
Conservative
SNP
Greens
UKIP

who were the others ? oh yes

Lim Dems

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Why not just bring it in line with the T&S restriction of 2 years then scrap T&S?

Because that would be logical and sensible - remember who you're dealing with here

[diseasex]

this news is to scare us "look what we can do to you if we want, so better stay quiet when we add those taxes to you"

[rl4engc]

They hate us and want to destroy us. We are only glorified typists.

I'm a skilled tradesman and a mouse and keyboard are the tools of my trade. Now say BigCompany wants to hire a specialist small company to replace it's roof, and they get a small one man band in (LtdRoofingCo) to do it over a few months.

Will BigCompany now be obliged to advertise for a permie positions, with associated pensions, training, holiday pay, inductions, appraisals, sick pay, employment rights, NICs etc? Or will they just want to get LtdRoofingCo in to do it for an agreed price, B2B?

This is why I can't see this ever working.

[BrilloPad]

Speak for yourself, I haven't got the legs to be a typist

Just remember that in the early days of computing the guys were put in the typing pool! They were subjected to merciless sexism. Luckily that was after the time I started(1984).

I'm a skilled tradesman and a mouse and keyboard are the tools of my trade. Now say BigCompany wants to hire a specialist small company to replace it's roof, and they get a small one man band in (LtdRoofingCo) to do it over a few months.

Will BigCompany now be obliged to advertise for a permie positions, with associated pensions, training, holiday pay, inductions, appraisals, sick pay, employment rights, NICs etc? Or will they just want to get LtdRoofingCo in to do it for an agreed price, B2B?

This is why I can't see this ever working.

Oh I agree with you. I am just telling you what the government(and their puppet masters HMRC) will say.

The reality is the IT is the future. And by not working with us they are throwing away the future of the country!

[MrMarkyMark]

by not working with us they are throwing away the future of the country!

Someone said, on here, there has been a 30% drop in computer related university course uptake, this year.
Doomed

Its something I have been going on about for the last 10 years, I can't believe IT is not been promoted as an option.
Maybe, the perception was / is it will all be run offshore in the future.

You couldn't make it up

They were subjected to merciless sexism.

I think I would have enjoyed it, I like working with female teams

[jamesbrown]

I get the feeling we're missing the bigger picture here.

What with all the other restrictions and additional taxation that the government is forcing upon contractors and Ltd Cos, it would well be that this article was deliberately leaked simply to distract everyone from this summer's budget.

The other possibility (good probability in my view) is that they've processed a large fraction of the responses to the T&S consultation and IR35 discussion and realised, due to the deconstruction and overwhelming criticism of the proposals contained therein, that they don't have workable proposals. Together with the several earlier reviews that have failed to identify workable proposals (from their perspective), this may have prompted an extreme reaction from HMT with an underlying motivation of increasing income (contrary to the tone of a more measured, proportionate, response, behind the scenes, from HMRC).