If Corbyn gets in

[AtW]

At least I'm not fingering the interns in the Nintendo room.

But you are a proud owner of a classic Lada car?

[SpontaneousOrder]

Ok, I call -

We used to have half of one of those when I was a kid!

[minestrone]

But you are a proud owner of a classic Lada car?

I wouldn't even call it a classic Lada.

I only jest with you AtW.

[AtW]

I wouldn't even call it a classic Lada.

I only jest with you AtW.

You should try harder

Now you would never guess what my next car will be ...

[OwlHoot]

You'd better pray he doesn't endorse the idea of putting in jail those who can't use apostrophe correctly

Did he really suggest that? Perhaps he isn't such a bad sort after all then. I may even vote for him

[OwlHoot]

You just have to look at the crowds he's pulling in almost everywhere he goes to see that his appeal is quite large. He's galvanised the 'apathetic - what's the point in voting you only get the same old same old' crowd, he's got the 'Russell Brand/Greenpeace/anti-war/Occupy/activist' crowd. And anyone else who's had enough of inequality and corrupt government sponsored by big big business, super rich and old money.

This is not a Tory dominated country - not by any stretch, they got 25% of the vote because there was really not much alternative.

Now there is and people are coming out in droves - just look at his following, the guy's a rock star and nobody cares what the establishment try and throw at him.

People want sweeping and fundamental change it would appear...

Absolutely, plus Labour would regain a lot of hard left votes that formerly went to the Greens and even, perhaps, SNP.

and another four years' worth of idealistic, increasingly disillusioned, young voters for whom the 1970s is ancient history.

and if the economy turns to rat tulip under the Tories' watch, which it could very well do the way things seem to be going worldwide, and we are about due for another recession, then they and their supposed austerity would be discredited as in Greece.

People smugly and dogmatically asserting that Labour under Corbyn would have no chance of winning are potentially making a big mistake IMHO.

Also, let's say Corbyn was Labour leader for a while and then fell under a bus or equivalent (he is cogging on after all) and was replaced by a moderate leader before the next election. The contrast would actually make the new leader more electable by comparison than if Corbyn hadn't preceded them. So in that scenario his leadership could indirectly benefit Labour, sort of like banging one's head against a wall - It feels so much better when you stop.

[Zero Liability]

and if the economy turns to rat tulip under the Tories' watch, which it could very well do the way things seem to be going worldwide, and we are about due for another recession, then they and their supposed austerity would be discredited as in Greece.

Possibly because the central banks and 'private' banks have gone on unabated in what caused the crisis in the first place, and the "regulators" still seem as wed to the same stupid models as ever. Nothing of value was learnt from the crisis. It'd be moronic to jettison the minuscule levels of austerity Britain is now engaging in because a bunch of twats like the IMF want the world to load up on debt, because they naively assume things will just go on as they did before.

[OwlHoot]

Possibly because the central banks and 'private' banks have gone on unabated in what caused the crisis in the first place ..

The banks keep the balls up in the air, maybe longer than they should be.

If anyone is to blame, it's politicians over recent years urging and even forcing banks to lend irresponsibly as they did, and politicians in turn simply reflect the wishes and aspirations of practically everyone who wants to better themselves.

It's rather pathetic and naive the way so many people blame bankers. It's the exact modern equivalent of blaming Jews for all society's ills, as superstitious medievil people once did, and their opportunistic rulers were happy to exploit just as hypocritical politicians do peoples' ignorant and envious prejudice today.

It'd be moronic to jettison the minuscule levels of austerity Britain is now engaging in because a bunch of twats like the IMF want the world to load up on debt

You're talking about what _you_ think (and me as it happens). But I was talking about what a possible majority of voters may think ...

[Zero Liability]

Yes, I agree with you on the "blame the bankers" mentality, thus my mention of central banks and "private" banks. There is no such thing as "central bank independence" in either the UK or the US, and especially not China or Japan, and very limited for the ECB. They are subservient to political volition. The political class, however, is intelligent enough - as a whole - to avoid directly inflating the money supply. You do get particular instances where the rubes running a given country are too unsophisticated to grasp this and end up with galloping hyperinflation which they then feebly try to blame on "capitalism", and introduce even dumber measures like price controls to stop this, but politicians in the developed countries know well enough the benefit of getting central banks to coordinate the pace of monetary expansion and provide a backstop for private banks, which in turn levitate asset prices by exercising demand for them, and which can then "safely" expand credit to ridiculous heights, knowing the central banks are there to provide a floor if they come crashing down (i.e. the Greenspan put etc.), and also to provide cheap money to gamble with. This is much more difficult to causally trace back to the root cause, and has the benefit of goosing up the GDP and taxes, at least temporarily. So of course, when the going gets tough, the sociopathic political class will blame it all on the bankers, as if it had no clue what was happening (which calls into question their competence), call on the need for "tougher regulation" blah blah blah, even though the regulators do nothing to actually lessen systemic risk, and perhaps do the exact opposite.

Perhaps it'd be beneficial for Corbyn to join the club of idiots that just inflate directly. Then, unable to hide the effects of monetary policy by letting it filter through asset markets, perhaps it'll become a little more transparent, when price increases hit consumer rather than asset prices (this has already been experienced with housing.)

[Jog On]

Corby interviewed on RT

Not the first time either. He really does not give a fig what the establishment think - Surprised they haven't made a massive song and dance out of it...