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"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR -
So you take single sentences, devoid of any context, and conclude that they are rapey because some rapists said them once? Ignoring ofcourse that people say those thinkgs all of the time - without doing any raping?
Re the absurd content in the link provided -
There are several studies that show that a very large percentage of women often say 'no' when they mean 'yes'. It's a token effort to pass responsibility onto the man.
'You know you want it' is part of the process - after which the woman can either consent or not. But one typically has to play the game in order to get there in the first place, whether that is in the form of words like 'you know you want it' or something typically much subtler. Ofcourse this is a song - so words if pretty much par for the course.
'you're a good girl' - again it's a song... she's not necessarily technically available (of she were to be a 'good girl'). He wants her to be a 'bad' girl so they can hook up.
Again - it's her choice. It's not about him being a 'bad man' - he has no say in the matter. He wants her to let her 'good girl' facade slip and give into the desire he thinks she harbours towards him.
The song lyrics clearly point out that he desires the woman and and needs to do the peacocking in order to get here - as she has all of the power.
The only way to interpret this as rapey is to cherry pick lyrics out of context and speculate on some potential underlying meaning. People who do that kind of think are seeking outrage for it's own sake. I can only speculate as to why people need to do this, but I have my own ideas.Comment
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Were those studies by Dapper Laughs by any chanceSocialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.Comment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostIf you can't see there is a problem then there is no point explaining it to you.
I gave you the opportunity to present some reasoning to uphold your (quite serious) accusations, and you declined. That makes your POV not an argument - it's just gum-flapping.Comment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostIf you can't see there is a problem then there is no point explaining it to you.When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....Comment
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Originally posted by TestMangler View PostGive him an explanation. You know he wants it. Fnar Fnar."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View PostSo you take single sentences, devoid of any context, and conclude that they are rapey because some rapists said them once? Ignoring ofcourse that people say those thinkgs all of the time - without doing any raping?
Re the absurd content in the link provided -
There are several studies that show that a very large percentage of women often say 'no' when they mean 'yes'. It's a token effort to pass responsibility onto the man.
'You know you want it' is part of the process - after which the woman can either consent or not. But one typically has to play the game in order to get there in the first place, whether that is in the form of words like 'you know you want it' or something typically much subtler. Ofcourse this is a song - so words if pretty much par for the course.
'you're a good girl' - again it's a song... she's not necessarily technically available (of she were to be a 'good girl'). He wants her to be a 'bad' girl so they can hook up.
Again - it's her choice. It's not about him being a 'bad man' - he has no say in the matter. He wants her to let her 'good girl' facade slip and give into the desire he thinks she harbours towards him.
The song lyrics clearly point out that he desires the woman and and needs to do the peacocking in order to get here - as she has all of the power.
The only way to interpret this as rapey is to cherry pick lyrics out of context and speculate on some potential underlying meaning. People who do that kind of think are seeking outrage for it's own sake. I can only speculate as to why people need to do this, but I have my own ideas.Comment
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Here it is, all laid out:
If you can't hear what I'm trying to say
If you can't read from the same page
Maybe I'm going deaf,
Maybe I'm going blind
Maybe I'm out of my mind
[Pre-chorus: Robin Thicke]
OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal, baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Hey, hey, hey
You don't need no papers
Hey, hey, hey
That man is not your maker
[Chorus: Robin Thicke]
And that's why I'm gon' take a good girl
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
Can't let it get past me
You're far from plastic
Talk about getting blasted
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me
I need to make sure I don't miss the opportunity...
[Verse 2: Robin Thicke]
What do they make dreams for
When you got them jeans on
What do we need steam for
You the hottest bitch in this place
I feel so lucky
Hey, hey, hey
You wanna hug me
Hey, hey, hey
What rhymes with hug me?
Hey, hey, hey
...repeated...
...repeated...
...repeated...
[Verse 3: T.I.]
One thing I ask of you
Let me be the one you back that ass to
Go, from Malibu, to Paris, boo
Yeah, I had a bitch, but she ain't bad as you
So hit me up when you pass through
I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two
Swag on, even when you dress casual
I mean it's almost unbearable
In a hundred years not dare, would I
Pull a Pharside let you pass me by
Now there she goes again, the dopest Ethiopian
And now the world around me be gets moving in slow motion when
When-ever she happens to walk by - why does the apple of my eye
Overlook and disregard my feelings no matter how much I try?
Wait, no, I did not really pursue my little princess with persistence
And I was so low-key that she was unaware of my existence
From a distance I desired, secretly admired her
Wired her a letter to get her, and it went
My dear, my dear, my dear, you do not know me but I know you very well
Now let me tell you about the feelings I have for you
When I try or make some sort of attempt, I symp
Damn I wish I wasn't such a wimp
Cause then I would let you know that I love you so
And if I was your man then I would be true
The only lying I would do is in the bed with you
Then I signed sincerely, the one who loves you dearly, PS Love Me Tender
The letter came back three days later: Return to Sender, damn
Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you
He don't smack that ass and pull your hair like that
So I just watch and wait for you to salute
But you didn't pick
Not many women can refuse this pimpin'
I'm a nice guy, but don't get it if you get with me (i think this is supposed to say don't get confused - you're getting it)
Don't get me wrong - I am a good bloke, but if we hook up I will smash your back doors in like you want me to.
[Pre-chorus: Robin Thicke]
Baby can you breathe? I got this from Jamaica
It always works for me, Dakota to Decatur, uh huh
No more pretending
Hey, hey, hey
Cause now you winning
Hey, hey, hey
Here's our beginning
...repeated stuff...Last edited by SpontaneousOrder; 12 March 2015, 13:22.Comment
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Put it another way, its ******* tulip whether its rapey or not...“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Baby can you breathe? I got this from Jamaica
It always works for me, Dakota to Decatur, uh huh
No more pretending
Hey, hey, hey
Cause now you winning
Hey, hey, hey
Here's our beginning
Lets get rapey!Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.Comment
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