Game over for Labour

[minestrone]

Can they not focus on "we're in more debt than when the Tories got in power"? Or is that not actually true?

Because the tories just say the deficit is going down and people don't have a clue what the difference is.

[Batcher]

I am sure there are enough self loathing liberals to keep labour in the hunt plus lots of class warriors in the North. To be fair to the Tories they could have kept their heads down in the scottish Independence debate knowing that labour and SNP MPs would be out of the equation come the next election.

The Tories did this. Cameron only ever did a few day visits, flying in on an RAF plane and back out again. The rest of the time it was Labour who fronted the No campaign backed by the Tory donor's money. That's why they've become toxic in Scotland too.

Labour canditates in Scotland have even asked Ed Miliband to stay away during the election campaign as he is seen as a worse leader than Cameron, and that is saying something. Labour people on the doorsteps are saying to people "Would you rather have David Cameron or a Labour government after the election?" so not even mentioning Miliband by name.

[CloudWalker]

The problem is if Tory voters vote UKIP then Labour WILL get in!

[MicrosoftBob]

The problem is if Tory voters in southern England vote UKIP then Labour could get in!

FTFY

[zemoxyl]

I do love this 1930's relic the FPTP. It means that the SNP are going to get representation *way* beyond their 4 or 5 % British vote share.

Anyway to the people who really know what they're on about........

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Tory minority or Tory/Lib coalition is where my money will be going.

[DodgyAgent]

The Tories did this. Cameron only ever did a few day visits, flying in on an RAF plane and back out again. The rest of the time it was Labour who fronted the No campaign backed by the Tory donor's money. That's why they've become toxic in Scotland too.

Labour canditates in Scotland have even asked Ed Miliband to stay away during the election campaign as he is seen as a worse leader than Cameron, and that is saying something. Labour people on the doorsteps are saying to people "Would you rather have David Cameron or a Labour government after the election?" so not even mentioning Miliband by name.

If the Tories had been all over Scotland the yes vote would have won

[Batcher]

If the Tories had been all over Scotland the yes vote would have won

Exactly. It was only the old Labour voters frightened for their pensions who swung it for No.

[Zero Liability]

Labour cannot reprimand the Tories on debt because it'd have to show it had a credible alternative that it'd implement. I very much doubt they would do any different, and possibly could've done worse, with even more money printing and borrowing. They do not have any fresh ideas, just more of the same Neo-Keynesian garbage the Tories adhere to, albeit in an attenuated form, so challenging the Tories on this won't do them much good, plus their plans to reduce indebtedness are tepid and impractical by comparison. Not that I perceive these as legitimate debts, just viewing this from their lens.

As for immigration, why would anyone vote for them on this issue when they're burying their heads in the sand? Irrespective of whether it is on net beneficial or not, voter perceptions are what count. UKIP is tearing away votes from both these buffoon parties, unfortunately the FPP system means this may make little difference other than forcing them to rethink their apathetic stance and policies, as all 3 'major' parties already have.

[DodgyAgent]

Where are all the lefties to defend their party ??

[Batcher]

Where are all the lefties to defend their party ??

If you're talking about Labour supporters, they are on the left of the Tories but right of centre according to the latest policy mappings.