The Litvinyenko affair....

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I like RT - particularly the shows (kaiser report, breaking the set, in the now), haven't found any BS yet or anything they have broadcast that is untrue.

Have you found ANY video on that channel that would seriously criticise Putin on that channel?

Do they regularly have people who voice disagreement with Putins policies on their programs???

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For example, does RT.com report on Litvinenko case in objective way showing current stuff that is published in Western press???

Does RT.com show that Litvinenko alleged that Putin is 'paedophile who ordered his murder', is it on that wonderful channel?

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Have you found ANY video on that channel that would seriously criticism Putin on that channel?

No but what's that got to do with it? I watch it for the criticism of our government and US/EU to learn what our politicians are up to that they are not telling us.

I get that they may be biased and are state owned but I don't watch it for Putin praising I watch it to counter the BBC/western MSM narrative to form an objective view of what actually is happening in the world.

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For example, does RT.com report on Litvinenko case in objective way showing current stuff that is published in Western press???

Does RT.com show that Litvinenko alleged that Putin is 'paedophile who ordered his murder', is it on that wonderful channel?

?Public inquiry into Litvinenko poisoning begins ? RT UK

He is believed to have been poisoned with radioactive Polonium-210 in November 2006 after meeting with former colleagues Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun, whom the Crown Prosecution Service wish to try for murder.

During the opening day of hearing, the inquiry heard that Litvinenko accused Vladimir Putin of ordering his death, during interviews with the Metropolitan Police.

Investigating Officer Robin Tam QC told the inquiry Litvinkenko said that he had “no doubt whatsoever that this was done by the Russian secret service.”

“Having knowledge of this system I know that this order about such a killing of a citizen of another country on its territory, especially if it is something to do with Great Britain, could have been given only by one person,” Litvinenko said in the days before his death. “That person is the president of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin.”

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?Public inquiry into Litvinenko poisoning begins ? RT UK

Ok, good.

Now find me a video on RT that would be very critical of Putin's policies in regards to Ukraine.

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No but what's that got to do with it? I watch it for the criticism of our government and US/EU to learn what our politicians are up to that they are not telling us.

If they never criticise their paymaster (which is Putin) then their reporting is no more than propaganda of his views.

Now you might like Putin's views and that's why you like to watch RT.com

I like to get objective information and I don't like Putin for his multiple criminal acts even before it was trendy in the West to dislike him, and that's why I don't want watch his propaganda channels.

There is plenty of criticism of WEstern politicians in The Telegraph, The Guardian and Private Eye. And note - editors of those newspapers don't die from strange poisoning! Unlike editors of Russian newspapers who were critical of Putin and got killed.

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If they never criticise their paymaster (which is Putin) then their reporting is no more than propaganda of his views.

Now you might like Putin's views and that's why you like to watch RT.com

I like to get objective information and I don't like Putin for his multiple criminal acts even before it was trendy in the West to dislike him, and that's why I don't want watch his propaganda channels.

There is plenty of criticism of WEstern politicians in The Telegraph, The Guardian and Private Eye. And note - editors of those newspapers don't die from strange poisoning! Unlike editors of Russian newspapers who were critical of Putin and got killed.

I agree that their lack of criticism for Putin does not make them objective and I understand your reasons for disliking him.

Like I said I watch/read RT specifically to learn what we're intentionally not being told in the western media about what's going on in the Middle East, Ukraine.

I suppose I am particularly alarmed by the anti-Russian/Putin hysteria in the press and what appears to be happening with US/EU/NATO pushing east onto Russia's border - where is this all headed and what does that mean to all of us? And who is the aggressor in this case?

I'm also very interested in the financial aspect of the BRICS nations, the decline of the US and petro dollar and what this means for the future of the world economy. This is why I watch Max kaiser and sometimes get distracted by the other shows and headlines.

I just get worried when I see our press whipping up rhetoric that is conditioning us to accept and support a conflict with Russia. Yes I do believe that the US has subverted Ukraine with $5b USD and engineered a coup that put their puppet in charge who is now taking orders from Washington. I think the Americans are using Ukraine as a boxing glove to hit Russia and care as much about the Ukraine people as they do about the people of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, Vietnam etc etc.

Of course our government is complicit in this and our media is banging the drum to get the public behind it with whatever fear/hate campaign will achieve that goal. That is why I read and watch RT. Nowhere else can I find the other side of the story based with real facts.

And the Youtube/facebook/Twitter stats show that I'm not alone:

YouTube Top 100 Most Subscribed News & Politics Channels List - Top by Subscribers

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I suppose I am particularly alarmed by the anti-Russian/Putin hysteria in the press and what appears to be happening with US/EU/NATO pushing east onto Russia's border - where is this all headed and what does that mean to all of us? And who is the aggressor in this case?

And you have to ask this question?? Who the fook annexed Crimea with help of guns, have you not seen it on TV, or maybe you think Western media just made it up and in reality it was soldiers with flowers rather than with guns???

NATO is not pushing anywhere, quiet the opposite - neighbouring countries with Russia are doing their best to run away from Russia's bad influence and NATO is the safest place, they got every fooking right to decide for themselves what kind of system they have in their own country without Russian meddling.

Putin should have been in Hague court for crimes against humanity for his Chechen war that he started in 1999 but the west closed eyes and after 9/11 any islamic fighting was viewed as terrorism, so Putin was let off despite doing same things that Milosevich did in Serbia.

And you still fooking ask who is the aggressor??? I guess if you watch RT.com then the aggressor must be USA and UK. It was their aggression that made Putin pre-emptively annex Crimea, bloody aggressors!!!

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And you have to ask this question?? Who the fook annexed Crimea with help of guns, have you not seen it on TV, or maybe you think Western media just made it up and in reality it was soldiers with flowers rather than with guns???

NATO is not pushing anywhere, quiet the opposite - neighbouring countries with Russia are doing their best to run away from Russia's bad influence and NATO is the safest place, they got every fooking right to decide for themselves what kind of system they have in their own country without Russian meddling.

Putin should have been in Hague court for crimes against humanity for his Chechen war that he started in 1999 but the west closed eyes and after 9/11 any islamic fighting was viewed as terrorism, so Putin was let off despite doing same things that Milosevich did in Serbia.

And you still fooking ask who is the aggressor??? I guess if you watch RT.com then the aggressor must be USA and UK. It was their aggression that made Putin pre-emptively annex Crimea, bloody aggressors!!!

Bloody hell! Anger ain't good for you man ....

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And you have to ask this question?? Who the fook annexed Crimea with help of guns, have you not seen it on TV, or maybe you think Western media just made it up and in reality it was soldiers with flowers rather than with guns???

NATO is not pushing anywhere, quiet the opposite - neighbouring countries with Russia are doing their best to run away from Russia's bad influence and NATO is the safest place, they got every fooking right to decide for themselves what kind of system they have in their own country without Russian meddling.

Putin should have been in Hague court for crimes against humanity for his Chechen war that he started in 1999 but the west closed eyes and after 9/11 any islamic fighting was viewed as terrorism, so Putin was let off despite doing same things that Milosevich did in Serbia.

And you still fooking ask who is the aggressor??? I guess if you watch RT.com then the aggressor must be USA and UK. It was their aggression that made Putin pre-emptively annex Crimea, bloody aggressors!!!

Didn't the annexation of Crimea happen after Poroshenko took over?

I think we're going round in circles here. You are anti-Putin and probably for very good reasons. I am anti-WW3 for obvious reasons and don't trust our media and politicians. Hence I watch RT for the other side of the story.

Putin aside - does it not bother you the way Russia as a whole is being treated in the Western media at the moment?

Now if you don't mind I'm going to catch the latest Kaiser report for some amusing financial updates