Salmond "We can take Scotland in two weeks"

[EternalOptimist]

Wouldn't saber rattling by the unionists be the bigger worry, then? Besides, Scotland hasn't really got much going for it that Westminster would want, other than oil, and even then the dazzle of the whole fracking "miracle" has its attention for now. The only crime Scotland inflicts on the world these days is Salmond, and maybe Haggis, whereas in the US' case the North, whatever its actual motivations (which were economic more than anything else), made ample use of the pretext of ending slavery.

manpower, common purpose. moral support.

all the things that are out of fashion at the moment (and we all hope will never be needed again)
but may one day be needed again

[jamesbrown]

The currency union will be with the Euro.

Not if they fail to pay off their debts.

Independent Scotland could not keep pound and stay in EU - Telegraph

[Batcher]

The currency union will be with the Euro.

No it won't. You can't join the Euro without having been a member of the IMF for two years. Sweden is a member of the EU but hasn't joined the IMF so won't have the Euro.

[Batcher]

Not if they fail to pay off their debts.

Independent Scotland could not keep pound and stay in EU - Telegraph

Oh yes, it's in the Torygraph so it must be true

[Batcher]

You have heard every UK party say there will be none.

Yes, and they don't have an agenda

[jamesbrown]

Oh yes, it's in the Torygraph so it must be true

Oh yes, it's in the Torygraph, so it must be false.

Try reading the entire letter from Olli Rehn embedded in the article. Not much ambiguity there.

[Batcher]

Iceland has some of the things you are boasting Scotland has.

Their membership also won't cause the threat of break up of other EU countries.

I'll give you Iceland has the resources but they aren't already EU citizens. You can't seriously think Albania and Turkey should get in ahead of Scotland?

[Batcher]

Oh yes, it's in the Torygraph, so it must be false.

Try reading the entire letter from Olli Rehn embedded in the article. Not much ambiguity there.

I have. He's an MEP giving his opinion just like Barroso did and he was shown to be wrong too. They are friends of the Tories in the EU so will say anything they are asked to do. It's all spin. David Cameron has been appealing with other leaders around the world to speak against Scottish independence, even Putin but he told him where to go.

[Batcher]

But that is not what is being offered.

I have been on stag nights with more planning than this. The SNP are hiding behind raw ugly nationalism refusing to answer questions.

You produce a document of more than 670 pages long when you go on a stag night?

[Batcher]

Wouldn't saber rattling by the unionists be the bigger worry, then? Besides, Scotland hasn't really got much going for it that Westminster would want, other than oil, and even then the dazzle of the whole fracking "miracle" has its attention for now. The only crime Scotland inflicts on the world these days is Salmond, and maybe Haggis, whereas in the US' case the North, whatever its actual motivations (which were economic more than anything else), made ample use of the pretext of ending slavery.

Makes you wonder why they are trying to hold onto Scotland if we are such a drain on resources.