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Can an agency find out what rate you were on previously?

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    #61
    Originally posted by Hireonomy View Post
    Perhaps... but we hoped that the legal page was a good place for it.

    If you are willing to state, yes please, and ill check it out
    Haven't checked again but from memory your other issues were:

    No statement of which country company registered
    No contact email address
    No membership number of trade body alongside logo.
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      #62
      Originally posted by speling bee View Post
      Haven't checked again but from memory your other issues were:

      No statement of which country company registered
      No contact email address
      No membership number of trade body alongside logo.
      Legal page says: Registered in the UK, although I think it should say England (or England and Wales) as Scotland has a different register.

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        #63
        Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
        Legal page says: Registered in the UK, although I think it should say England (or England and Wales) as Scotland has a different register.
        Exactamundo.
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          #64
          Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
          So if I work for you, and another agent or client asks you my rate, you will tell them?
          This is commercially confidential information. You can confirm this sort of information if the other party gives permission, but you should most certainly not be divulging this to other unrelated third parties.

          Legal and data protection issues aside, its unethical, shows a lack of care and will most certainly damage your companies reputation. Why are so many agencies so far on the wrong side of this?

          If you are an agent and wondering why we call you pimps and generally have low regard for your agencies... look no further ...

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            #65
            Originally posted by speling bee View Post
            A good effort so I applaud you. Do you not think it's a bit hidden away and it would be more clear and transparent just to replace throughout the website '7%' with '7% + VAT'?

            Anyway, your heart seems in the right place, so would you like to know the other ways in which your website is still not compliant, despite being told about a month ago?
            FTFY

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              #66
              Originally posted by Hireonomy View Post
              Our clients know what the daily rate is for the contractor, we openly tell them. Like we tell the contractors the rate we charge the client.
              That's great, but as you've said a number of times, you're different from other agents. So let's play out this scenario...

              You ask me for a reference.

              I give you a reference of the stream lead who is a contractor, and has no knowledge of the rates that people are on. The contractor has left the client and moved onto another project. The contractor is the most appropriate person to provide a reference.

              You ask the reference what rate I was on. They cannot answer the question.

              What happens next?
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                #67
                Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                That's great, but as you've said a number of times, you're different from other agents. So let's play out this scenario...

                You ask me for a reference.

                I give you a reference of the stream lead who is a contractor, and has no knowledge of the rates that people are on. The contractor has left the client and moved onto another project. The contractor is the most appropriate person to provide a reference.

                You ask the reference what rate I was on. They cannot answer the question.

                What happens next?
                I dont know what you expect me to say here?

                If the contact doesn't know, they cant answer the question. They would, I assume, be able to provide start/end dates which is also another question asked (to make sure CV matches reality).

                Previous rate isn't the be all and end all. If someone said they had Prince 2 Practitioner certification but turns out they haven't - this would raise question marks.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Hireonomy View Post
                  I dont know what you expect me to say here?
                  You said
                  Originally posted by Hireonomy View Post
                  Yes, they can find out.

                  As part of our service to our Clients, we carry out employment, education and reference checks on every contractor that goes on site and this includes speaking to previous employers/agencies
                  I said
                  Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                  Reference check? Fine, that won't disclose a daily rate.
                  You said
                  Originally posted by Hireonomy View Post
                  It does when one of the questions that is asked "daily rate"...
                  So what do you do when the reference says "I can't or won't answer your question"?
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                    You said


                    I said


                    You said


                    So what do you do when the reference says "I can't or won't answer your question"?
                    Seriously?

                    If an agency are not as open with their charging structure as we are, and the Client does not know the Daily Rate being paid to the Contractor then obviously we are not able to verify THAT PART of the reference check and will note that in our report.

                    Edit: And some Contractors, those who don't mind disclosing their rate, provide contact details of the previous Agent for reference information.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Hireonomy View Post
                      Seriously?

                      If an agency are not as open with their charging structure as we are, and the Client does not know the Daily Rate being paid to the Contractor then obviously we are not able to verify THAT PART of the reference check and will note that in our report.
                      Oh, OK. So when you said
                      Originally posted by Hireonomy View Post
                      Yes, they can find out.
                      You meant "Possibly, they can find out, if you give a reference who knows the rate that you were paid, and we ask them, and they choose to disclose that".

                      Thanks for clarifying
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