Contract in Netherlands - General Advice and payroll

[Eirikur]

Nice people, easy to work with and very friendly.

Huh? Biggest bunch of rude, unfriendly, intolerant racist bastards in the world. Have worked there for many years so I know what I'm talking about

[DirtyDog]

Huh? Biggest bunch of rude, unfriendly, intolerant racist bastards in the world. Have worked there for many years so I know what I'm talking about

If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people intolerant of other cultures. And the Dutch.

[jamesbrown]

Huh? Biggest bunch of rude, unfriendly, intolerant racist bastards in the world. Have worked there for many years so I know what I'm talking about

Utter nonsense, and I also worked there for several years. The Dutch are friendly and straight-talking, as much as any generalisation is worthwhile.

[Bellona]

Huh? Biggest bunch of rude, unfriendly, intolerant racist bastards in the world. Have worked there for many years so I know what I'm talking about

I have lived and worked in Holland on and off and I've found the Dutch to be very open-minded people : open to people of all shapes,sizes,colours,creeds, sexual orientation.

Would they employ a Dutch National over an equivalent (in all terms including cost) applicant that was a non national ? Probably. Don't most countries ? Probably.

All countries have small groups of extremists, be it about religion, race, or sexual orientation. I cannot fathom how people can generalize an entire region or country.You can't say all Dutch are racist just because you had a few(or many) bad experiences.

There has been an increase in intolerance since 9/11, in respect of muslims in Holland, as there has been in a lot of western countries, but in terms of "statistics", a number of polls all include Hong Kong, Bangladesh, Jordan and India as the most racially intolerant countries in the world.

Go figure

[norrahe]

Huh? Biggest bunch of rude, unfriendly, intolerant racist bastards in the world. Have worked there for many years so I know what I'm talking about

I live there and find the xenophobia amusing, but once you get to know people they're not a bad lot.

[norrahe]

Would they employ a Dutch National over an equivalent (in all terms including cost) applicant that was a non national ? Definitely.

Which is why I've seen an increase in the last couple of years in "must speak Dutch" or "native Dutch speaker required" at the end of a gig description which is in English. If you require a Dutch speaker then advertise in Dutch, not English and put the language requirement FIRST, not the LAST sentence.

[Bellona]

Which is why I've seen an increase in the last couple of years in "must speak Dutch" or "native Dutch speaker required" at the end of a gig description which is in English. If you require a Dutch speaker then advertise in Dutch, not English and put the language requirement FIRST, not the LAST sentence.

Completely agree.
Goes for UK recruiters as well though. Im on the bench at the moment and have had initial excitement replaced with an exasperated "oh Bo*!ocks" when I reach the last line of a spec and it says "must be fluent in French/German/Dutch" etc

[Brussels Slumdog]

Nationality of Project Manager

Which is why I've seen an increase in the last couple of years in "must speak Dutch" or "native Dutch speaker required" at the end of a gig description which is in English. If you require a Dutch speaker then advertise in Dutch, not English and put the language requirement FIRST, not the LAST sentence.

If the Advert says "must speak Dutch" or "native Dutch speaker required" then the project manager is most likely Dutch in the Netherlands

If the Advert says "must speak Dutch" or "native Dutch speaker required" then the project manager is most likely Flemish in the Belgium and won't even accept the Dutch from the Netherlands

I have only worked once in the Netherlands where the project manager was Dutch on the other occasions they were foreign

Agencies will insist that you use a dutch payroll company due to dutch chain law which means that if the clientco is audited then they will be responsible for the tax and then will try and retrieve the tax from your agent . Dutch nationals have what is called a VAR which is statement proving that they are resonsible for paying their tax.
The 30% ruling is now more strict as you have to live more than 150 KM from the Dutch border which means I no longer qualify.
You are also required to take out private medical insurance if you are working in the Netherlands.This is about 100 euros but the other social costs are small change compared to Belgium

[Runs With Scissors]

If the Advert says "must speak Dutch" or "native Dutch speaker required" then the project manager is most likely Dutch in the Netherlands

If the Advert says "must speak Dutch" or "native Dutch speaker required" then the project manager is most likely Flemish in the Belgium and won't even accept the Dutch from the Netherlands

eh?

[SueEllen]

eh?

What's the look for?

It's like you or me saying "Native British English speaker required" to avoid employing anyone from the EU, Commonwealth or States.

The recruiting manager is being racist but disguising it badly - from my personal experience both Dutch, Flemish and Afrikaans speakers have no difficulty understanding what each other say.